re: Bama teaches Aggy how to count Championships

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Aight, should have read up, but still claiming titles before 1950 is kinda stretching it, ESP when people on the rant point out all the time that it was a different game back then and throw out stats. Kinda hypocritical to claim titles and not count the stats

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Every ones we count before 1950 except for 1941 was when we played in the Rose Bowl, the only bowl game at the time.

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Hell, more than half of the 11 national championships Michigan claims are from before 1920.

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They only have 2 since the introduction of the AP poll in 36.

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You want us to be the only team not to count the UPI championship?

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That 73 Title is BS and you know it.

Let's see.... Bama gets AP title in 64 when they lose their bowl game, because the bowl games don't count and then get the 65 title, because bowl games do count.

You get beat straight up by an undefeated team in a bowl game 9 years after the AP ruled that Bowl games really should count and there is absolutely no reason for anyone to recognize that BS title.

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1950 on is different though, because titles were actually awarded at the time and with hardware that's still around. Nothing retroactive.

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I can understand that, but I believe that anyone who finished undefeated prior to 1950 (or prior to 1936 for that matter) has the right to claim a national championship if they so choose. I feel Alabama's national title claims to 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934 are about as legit as titles get pre-1950.

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I still don't get that, but it's cool. We were the unanimous NC 1908 and split a couple the next few years but we chose not to recognize them so that's on us

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I wasn't even talking about pre-1950 stuff. I was strictly talking about 1973. We count that year because we were named #1 by the UPI. If we didn't claim that, we'd be the only team to ever win the UPI poll and not claim it.

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That 73 Title is BS and you know it.

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So does that mean Tennessee's 1951 AP & UPI national championship is BS because they lost their bowl game?

Or how about 1970 Texas? They claim a UPI national championship despite losing their bowl game.

The UPI national championship in 1973 is legit because it was awarded to us. That's all there is to it. And we lost to Notre Dame, 24-23, because our kicker missed an extra point. Had he made that kick, Alabama would have tied Notre Dame and would have more than likely won the AP national championship.

Bottom line, those were the rules of the day. If you don't like them, invent a time machine, go back, and change them. Until then...quit your bitching.

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There's a difference between claiming a title at the time though and it doing it 50+ years later in some cases.

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That's when most schools started claiming them. Alabama started claiming 11 in the early-80s because schools like Notre Dame, USC, and Michigan were going back and awarding themselves national championships retroactively.

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Jumped started, still wanted to know why fans claim the pre1950 titles. We had a couple pre1950 and chose not to recognize them

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Why should we not? Just because we didn't put them in our record books doesn't mean they didn't happen. They were celebrated as national champions back in their day.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to single out Bama. UGA and UT are guilty of it as well. No one should've started doing it, sets a bad precedent.

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You get me, same thought

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Because we all know that CFB didn't start until 2000, right?

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1990.