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re: Bama or LSU? Which Team Wins The West Next Year?
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:24 pm to lsusteve1
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:24 pm to lsusteve1
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All you Bama people talking this shite will be disappointed......
I wasn't talking shite. I was calling like I and everyone else not wearing purple and gold saw it. Honey Badger looked like Nick Saban trying to defend Kareem Abdul Jabar. The key to beating Mathieu is throwing the ball up for grabs.
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Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:24 pm to BhamDore
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Bama O line handled LSU front pretty well. Chavis did call some great run blitzs and tackled Richardson in the backfield.
True. But LSU won't be nearly as one dimensional next year.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:27 pm to Tiger Authority
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Nobody said that last year you were consensus top two and preseason NC pick. Stop generalizing things that simply aren't true.
Last year you guys said the offense would be terrible without McElroy, Ingram and Julio.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:29 pm to Teague
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Last year you guys said the offense would be terrible without McElroy, Ingram and Julio.
I think all that was said was that the offense had questions with a new quarterback. Completely valid. McCarron was a completely unknown and progressed throughout the season. I still don't think your receivers are very good. I think speculation of losing a heisman winner as affecting production was valid, but you just happened to have an even better player behind him.
Nobody in that backfield is as good as Richardson. I still think the running game will be strong though. And I think the receiving will be better.
But stating concerns are valid. The fact you were top two and preseason picks for everyone's NC pick cuts against your gross generalization though.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:31 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Everybody's first inclination is to go with LSU but if you look at the history of the LSU-Bama series, the road team has won 22 out of the last 31 games. Most people thought Bama was going to beat LSU last year because the game was going to be played at Bama and they had the more experienced team and they ended up losing the game. The scenarios will be reversed this time around and I won't be surprised if we see Bama pull out a narrow victory. One thing to look out for is Mettenberger. McCarron's inexperience and poor play ended up costing Bama the game last year and I won't be surprised if Mettenberger loses the game for LSU next season. Say what you want about Jordan Jefferson but he didn't commit a single turnover and didn't make any mistakes to hurt LSU on 11/5 which was a big reason why LSU won that game.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Authority
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The fact you were top two and preseason picks for everyone's NC pick cuts against your gross generalization though.
No, it doesn't. Do LSU fans make the preseason polls? If not, what you're saying is in no way related to my statement.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:32 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
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McCarron's inexperience and poor play ended up costing Bama the game last year and I won't be surprised if Mettenberger loses the game for LSU next season. Say what you want about Jordan Jefferson but he didn't commit a single turnover and didn't make any mistakes to hurt LSU on 11/5 which was a big reason why LSU won that game.
I think that's a valid point. Mett takes chances and will throw some picks this year. But I think he makes us less one dimensional as a team and that is a net benefit. And by the time the game rolls around, much like McCarron last year, the inexperience thing will be a meaningless argument.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:35 pm to Teague
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No, it doesn't. Do LSU fans make the preseason polls? If not, what you're saying is in no way related to my statement.
Considering you're painting an entire fanbase with a broad stroke without any proof just makes you look ridiculous. Sure, you can find a homer on every team on this board that says stupid shite. But the fact of the matter is that you were ranked where you were as a testament to how good the country felt your team was.
And again, all of those concerns were completely valid. Particularly McCarron. And you still can't find a Julio replacement, because the current roster just doesn't give you that type of player right now.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:39 pm to Tiger Authority
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I think that's a valid point. Mett takes chances and will throw some picks this year. But I think he makes us less one dimensional as a team and that is a net benefit. And by the time the game rolls around, much like McCarron last year, the inexperience thing will be a meaningless argument.
Yeah, it's pretty eerie how the scenarios are pretty much reversed this time around. LSU will have the more experienced team playing at home with an inexperienced QB just like Bama did last year and Bama has the talented young defense with the experienced QB and a stable of RBs just like last year's LSU team.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:40 pm to tiger perry
quote:That would be quite a surprise given we've lost there a grand total of once in the last dozen years. We're 5-1 over that span, 3-1 since Miles got here, and 2-1 since Saban landed in T-town. It's not quite to the legendary proportions of the Curse of the Bear, but we pretty much own Bama on their own field.
I think LSU wins at home next year and Bama wins the following year at BD
Of course, we're 4-2 in Baton Rouge over that span, as well. So we pretty much just own Bama in general. Notable flukes notwithstanding, that is.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:41 pm to Tiger Authority
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Nobody in that backfield is as good as Richardson.
That's probably true although at times last season, Lacy managed to get yards when Trent couldn't for whatever reason. Trent's pass blocking and receiving might be missed more than his running.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:42 pm to DaBama
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That's probably true although at times last season, Lacy managed to get yards when Trent couldn't for whatever reason. Trent's pass blocking and receiving might be missed more than his running.
With that offensive line I don't think you'll miss a beat but certain players are irreplaceable.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:45 pm to DaBama
quote:No, the key to beating Mathieu is holding on to the ball once you've gone up and caught it. A 35 yard leaping reception with a lost fumble at the end of the play is still a win for the defender.
The key to beating Mathieu is throwing the ball up for grabs
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:46 pm to Tiger Authority
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Considering you're painting an entire fanbase with a broad stroke without any proof just makes you look ridiculous. Sure, you can find a homer on every team on this board that says stupid shite. But the fact of the matter is that you were ranked where you were as a testament to how good the country felt your team was.
Does it make me look more ridiculous than continually bending my argument when I get shot down?
But, if you want to stick to your most current argument, I'd be glad to dig up the old threads from last year. I bet I can find more than a few random LSU homers.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:46 pm to DaBama
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I wasn't talking shite. I was calling like I and everyone else not wearing purple and gold saw it. Honey Badger looked like Nick Saban trying to defend Kareem Abdul Jabar. The key to beating Mathieu is throwing the ball up for grabs.
But I will say it again.....don't think LSU won't make an adjustment here. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that TM will get better....and if he does this, look out SEC.
AJ played a near flawless game.....happens sometimes. I wouldn't EXPECT it every game.
Bama will be coming into an atmosphere unlike most of the Tiger fanbase has ever seen......should be interesting.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:48 pm to Teague
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But, if you want to stick to your most current argument, I'd be glad to dig up the old threads from last year. I bet I can find more than a few random LSU homers.
And I'm sure I can go dig up stupid threads from Alabama fans throughout the beginning and course of last year. But you don't see me crying about it.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:48 pm to genuineLSUtiger
LSU should be favored by 7. We will win the West next year.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Authority
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With that offensive line I don't think you'll miss a beat but certain players are irreplaceable.
That's the truth. Trent was able to get 2 or 3 yards on nothing more than brute strength. I don't know of any back Bama's got now that can do that consistently.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:54 pm to DaBama
quote:Yep, I tried explaining that to my friends up here in DC that complained about how that Nov. 5th game had "no offense." I kept telling them that Trent Richardson made some amazing runs in that game to accomplish a 2 yard gain.
Trent was able to get 2 or 3 yards on nothing more than brute strength
Posted on 5/1/12 at 1:59 pm to lsusteve1
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Bama will be coming into an atmosphere unlike most of the Tiger fanbase has ever seen
No doubt about that. It's going to be crazy. Y'all are going to be out for blood.
Just so you know, I think Mathieu is a great player. He brings things to the game that can't be taught. His ball hawking skills are incredible and I hold my breath every time he returns a punt.
Everybody can't be everything. Honey Badger can't be taller so he's prone to giving up high passes. Javier Arenas had the same problem but that didn't stop him from being a great player. He and Honey Badger are similar in a lot of ways.
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