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re: Avery Johnson "has taken this bama team leaps and bounds to what it was when he arrived"

Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:19 pm to
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Some of those Grant teams were hard to watch. I think Avery was a slight upgrade because he has brought in a little more talent but the results are definitely similar.


They're both flawed in ways that basically require an elite playmaker(s) to cover for faults in the program structure. And we're not gonna have those guys very often.

Neither was Rick Ray or Kim Anderson, but just never have/did show they could improve or make adjustments needed.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:20 pm to
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Avery Johnson is Alabama’s version of Gus Malzahn.


He’s been to a national championship and won a sec championship? Don’t be dumb.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:21 pm to
Not what I asked. Bama was 9-13 vs NET 1and 2 teams. The SEC has 3 legit Top 10 teams and AU playing like one now. Throw in MSU, UF, Ole Miss and Ark and you see the big difference.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:26 pm to
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Not what I asked. Bama was 9-13 vs NET 1and 2 teams. The SEC has 3 legit Top 10 teams and AU playing like one now. Throw in MSU, UF, Ole Miss and Ark and you see the big difference.


Sure, but then you go out and lose to Northeastern by 15, Georgia State and Texas A&M twice. That's the problem Puppets. If we win those 4 games, or even 3 of them, we are frustrated with the way we play and other things but Alabama is 21-12 and easily in the NCAA Tournament as a 9/10 seed. It's basically 2006 era Gottfried.

Losing to good teams in a good league would he expected or tolerated. You can't go 2-7 vs the top 5 SEC teams and also lose to the bad ones 2x AND lose to 2 mid majors on top of playing pure embarrassing, laughable basketball.

That's how you miss Tournaments in laughably awful bubble years with a team that returned 7-8 contributors from the year before.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:29 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:26 pm to
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Per the SEC network commentators.

True or False?
Those clowns on the SEC Network are forever grappling for something astounding to say.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7966 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:29 pm to
I don't know how serious it is but I have seen talk of Avery seeing the writing on the wall and making a move to SMU before he gets fired next season.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:31 pm to
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I don't know how serious it is but I have seen talk of Avery seeing the writing on the wall and making a move to SMU before he gets fired next season.


Had not heard SMU, but there has definitely been discussion of a possible mutual exit to another job.

The thing there is that I just don't see it unless he gets part of a buyout or gets another job that pays really well.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:31 pm to
Yeah, this is the worst bubble of all-time and we still aren't safely in.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14429 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:32 pm to
He brought in some talent but failed to coach them up. It's a wash at best.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:35 pm to
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I don't know how serious it is but I have seen talk of Avery seeing the writing on the wall and making a move to SMU before he gets fired next season.

If he needs any help with the move, I know about 1000 folks who'd be happy to give him a hand....and you can start with me.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7966 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:36 pm to
Here's to hoping he cares more about having a job than he does money. He's clearly not the answer.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:41 pm to
Coach Avery def puts out the energy when coaching his team, they just don't do what he's trying to get them to do all the time, and I mean that' not his fault. People blame the coaches when a team fails, but I mean it's not really their fault. shite, I mean what do y'all want them to do?? LOL Get out there and make the damn plays for these kids, these kids have to help themselves out there, and play ball the way a coach is trying to get them to play and the way that he knows that they are capable of playing.

Avery does his job every nite and all during the week in preparing his team to play a game, but these kids are hard to coach because they just seem to disappear during the game sometimes, and it's frustrating. I mean you can have an excellent week of practice, be well prepared to play and have them fired up and all, but when it's all said and done it's fricking up to them to go out there and execute everything that you've worked on during the week in preparation for that opponent.

shite, coaches get the blame when a team fails, and not enough credit when they win, but I mean that's the life of a HC. Avery Johnson is a better coach imo than a Anthony Grant, and he's always full of energy and fired up, very animated dude in getting his points across to his team and school. But ultimately he's judged on W's, and that's the bottom line. It's a hard fricking profession!
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132323 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:41 pm to
true

Do you guys remember what it was?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:42 pm to
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Do you guys remember what it was?


Yea, it was exactly the fvckin same
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:42 pm to
So if they make the NCAAs, then these problems go away? I think 2019 Bama would have won 5 more games playing 2015 SEC and the reverse for 2015 Bama.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
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tubucoco
Who recruited those players that won't listen to him?
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7966 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
For real. He coaches them to make shots and stop the other team from scoring. It's not his fault they don't listen. Amirite Jr?
Posted by warau
Member since Nov 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
Reese and petty would be studs under pearl. Especially Reese. Johnson sucks
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Here's to hoping he cares more about having a job than he does money. He's clearly not the answer.

Avery's not a college coach. He's never had to teach fundamentals or develop a young player...they come already taught in the NBA....and damn well!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:44 pm to
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So if the make the NCAAs, then these problems go away?


Not even close

quote:

I think 2019 Bama would have won 5 more game playing 2015 SEC and the reverse for 2015 Bama.


This team absolutely would not have gone 13-5 in the SEC in 2015. For frick sake they lost to Texas A&M twice.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:45 pm
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