re: Auburn has to be encouraged by what they see.

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You still think Boise State upgraded when Harsin left?

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Once again Auburn fans having to make up things I never said.

I have said many times that Harsin was a downgrade and the worst Boise St coach since the late 90s when Harsin was the QB. And you can see that for yourself.

I also said - the next time he improves a program he arrives at will be the first time he has done so, and that he has thus far in his 9 year his best win was against a like #20 ranked Arizona team.

And I said that while Boise St was a G5 team, the school has extensive resources well beyond the average G5 team, and he struggled there and lost multiple games to smaller teams. If he is unable to get it down with that advantage, what in the hell is he going to really be able to do at Auburn in the SEC where he is at a disadvantage. You're 2nd fiddle in your own state.

Nothing has changed on my opinion. It's possible he could improve and have success at Auburn, people tend to get better in age, but I'll be shocked. He's in over his head and your AD was unable to take the circumstances around the coach when he went out and hired a "good G5 coach". You didn't go out and get a coach who built up a G5 school into success, you took a coach who took over maybe the best G5 program and couldn't maintain it.

All still true and will stay true.

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He's in over his head and your AD was unable to take the circumstances around the coach when he went out and hired a "good G5 coach".

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like third highest winning percentage in the nation "good"?

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Oh he does.

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Cool, anything else I didn't say I should know about? I couldn't even tell you who Boise St hired. Boise St fans for some reason got really quiet during the Harsin years and no longer talk about how the system is rigged against them.

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Probably thinks firing Gus was still a mistake too.

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Well I wouldn't think firing Gus was exactly a mistake in itself, until you went out an hired Harsin. You paid all that buyout money and ended up with a worst coach.

But I do enjoy watching Auburn fans make a big deal out of Harsin picking up the same wins as Gus, with the players Gus brought to Auburn to a G5 team Gus just took over.

Auburn has looked better overall that’s for sure. Im personally glad he’s there because with his scheme there is probably going to be no crazy voodoo shite vs Alabama like Gus’ scheme brought. If y’all are fine with losing to UGA and Alabama every year he should be pretty good

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You paid all that buyout money and ended up with a worst coach.

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Ok, done with you. I'm not even going to acknowledge how fricking stupid that sounds.

Maybe you should see what the UCF fans think of Gus about now.

Oh, but tell me again about their one year at Arkansas State!

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If y’all are fine with losing to UGA and Alabama every year he should be pretty good

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Gus was already losing to UGA every year and Alabama a third of the time. He was also losing to LSU and dropping games to South Carolina and Tennessee.

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I bet that's the same thing your dumbass AD was thinking when he hired him because taking the circumstances of stats to actually understand them is a bit too hard for Auburn people.

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or you are just a moron who has his head up his arse regarding Auburn......never giving Auburn credit for anything accomplished. Just excuses on why it happened.

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or you are just a moron who has his head up his arse regarding Auburn......never giving Auburn credit for anything accomplished. Just excuses on why it happened.

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My opinion on Harsin would be the same even if Alabama hired him. Everything I've said is true regardless.

Thankfully, Auburn hired him and that makes it funny.

There is really only 1 argument Auburn fans can make that gives me any pause on what I think about Harsin. Gene Chizik.

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You are winning over LSU because LSU sucks since 2019.

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probably, but didn’t they just beat a Florida team that Bama struggled with?

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Once again Auburn fans having to make up things I never said.

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Fair enough, I thought you were the one who called Avalos an upgrade over Harsin. Might have been TrueLefty. My apologies.

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I have said many times that Harsin was a downgrade and the worst Boise St coach since the late 90s when Harsin was the QB. And you can see that for yourself.

I also said - the next time he improves a program he arrives at will be the first time he has done so, and that he has thus far in his 9 year his best win was against a like #20 ranked Arizona team.

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And I contend that he could only be considered a downgrade from the HC with the highest winning percentage in all of FBS, and one of the most successful runs of all time.

Being tRant's resident Boise State expert, I'm sure you are aware that outside of Petersen's phenomenal 8-year run on the blue turf, that the Broncos were a less-than-stellar 2-13 against P5 competition, their lone victories being a regular season home win over eventual 7-5 (NR) Oregon State, and a Humanitarian Bowl victory over 7-7 (also NR) Iowa State. So outside of Petersen, 'big wins' in Boise were nonexistent.

I would consider Harsin's three MWC conference championship game victories 'big wins' as well, given the context, but I can see where you would turn up your nose at such petty accomplishments.

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And I said that while Boise St was a G5 team, the school has extensive resources well beyond the average G5 team, and he struggled there and lost multiple games to smaller teams.

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Again, I feel you are overstating this 'advantage'. In terms of athletic department funding, BSU is in the middle of the MWC pack despite their dominance on the gridiron (and yes, I would consider winning their division 5 times and the CG 3 in 8 years 'dominance'. YMMV, obviously.)

And of his 'multiple losses to smaller teams', 3 of those came in his worst year in 2015, which was the only full season wherein he finished with fewer than 10 regular season wins. But hey, it's hard to shake that 'underacheiver' tag once you've tarred him with it.

Obvisouly none of this will divest you of what is clearly a minority opinion on this forum (and elsewhere, Tony Franklin notwithstanding) about Harsin, just as no abysmally bad defensive performances will apparently divest you of your minority opinion about Pete Goulding.

You do you, friend.