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Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:09 am to BHMKyle
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:09 am to BHMKyle
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I tend to think of Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas as being all very similar. Atlanta is certainly the better looking city of the three. Houston has the worst traffic and its frankly just ugly.
Agree with most of this. Houston is definitely the ugliest with the worst traffic in particular.
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:10 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Houston is definitely the ugliest with the worst traffic in particular.
Yea, between the small skyline and the oil refineries in the background it is a pretty ugly sight. Plus, the zoning laws are horrendous for good looking growth.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The visitors are there for what reason ?
Lots of people we run into who are from out of the country plan 10-20 day trips to America and they generally seem to fly into Atlanta and spend the first 1-2 days doing things in the city : Coke Museum, High Museum of Art, Civil Rights Museum, MLK Museum, etc.
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The Corporation's are there because of the Airport also
LOL - which Atlanta built and made into the world leader it is today. The airport didn't just appear out of the sand one day. But yea, that isn't the only reason, but I don't have all day to pull the last 13 Atlanta Business Chronicle articles about every new giant company moving to the region and why they did it.
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Other than that, Atlanta is just like every other City without a River or real mountains.
Well hell, guess we are really good at tricking people then, because we seem to be beating the hell out of pretty much every metro area other than 6-7 in growth and GDP.
Jumping off point, like I said. I can not imagine anyone planing their vacation around the High Museum or the Coke Museeum (unless they misunderstood the theme). I'm sure Atlanta markets the Civil Rights and MLK museums to the Afro-American community, but I doubt anyone chooses Atlanta as a destination location because of that. I will give them credit for the Aquarium, but even that has a Six Flags feel and is regionally popular.
If I remember my History, the airport was built because of Delta's needs. Its growth has been proportional to Delta's growth for most of that time. I knew Guy Hill who was instrumental in Aviation in the Atlanta Area and the growth of that airport.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:23 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
Atlanta Population (MSA - 5.27M in 2010)
50.7% White Only (2,671,757)
32.4% Black Only (1,707,913)
10.4% Hispanic (747,400)
4.9% Asian (356,956)
DFW Population (MSA - 6.37M in 2010)
50.2% White Only
15.4% Black Only
27.5% Hispanic
5.9% Asian
Houston Population (MSA - 5.92M in 2010)
40.2% White Only (2,377,281)
35.4% Hispanic (2,096,532)
17.3% Black Only (1,023,232)
7.2% Other (423,371)
Miami Population (MSA - 5.56M in 2010)
35.2% Hispanic (1,976,300)
34.8% White Only (1,937,939)
21.0% Black Only (1,075,174)
2.3% Asian (125,564)
Birmingham Population (MSA - 1.14M in 2010)
64.6% White Only
28.4% Black Only
2.82% Hispanic
1.3% Asian
50.7% White Only (2,671,757)
32.4% Black Only (1,707,913)
10.4% Hispanic (747,400)
4.9% Asian (356,956)
DFW Population (MSA - 6.37M in 2010)
50.2% White Only
15.4% Black Only
27.5% Hispanic
5.9% Asian
Houston Population (MSA - 5.92M in 2010)
40.2% White Only (2,377,281)
35.4% Hispanic (2,096,532)
17.3% Black Only (1,023,232)
7.2% Other (423,371)
Miami Population (MSA - 5.56M in 2010)
35.2% Hispanic (1,976,300)
34.8% White Only (1,937,939)
21.0% Black Only (1,075,174)
2.3% Asian (125,564)
Birmingham Population (MSA - 1.14M in 2010)
64.6% White Only
28.4% Black Only
2.82% Hispanic
1.3% Asian
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:24 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:23 am to SummerOfGeorge
In addition to ethnic demographics, consider that there just isn't a predominant culture in Miami.
There is a strong European influence, hell, South beach is topless and on a Saturday in the fall, you are just as likely to get soccer in a bar as college football on tv.
Then of course the latin culture.
And the American culture.
Then in sunny isles, it is like 50% Russian.
There is a strong European influence, hell, South beach is topless and on a Saturday in the fall, you are just as likely to get soccer in a bar as college football on tv.
Then of course the latin culture.
And the American culture.
Then in sunny isles, it is like 50% Russian.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:24 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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In addition to ethnic demographics, consider that there just isn't a predominant culture in Miami.
There is a strong European influence, hell, South beach is topless and on a Saturday in the fall, you are just as likely to get soccer in a bar as college football on tv.
Then of course the latin culture.
And the American culture.
Then in sunny isles, it is like 50% Russian.
Yea, I'd categorize Miami as perhaps the most international city in the country overall.
America is just so isolated because of travel times and costs from Asian and Europe that it can't be expected to have the same sort of feel as European and even Asian cities do in terms of various internationalist tendencies. You can travel through 4 countries that speak 4 languages in Europe on 1 train in half a day. That's just a dynamic that doesn't exist here.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:27 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Agree with most of this. Houston is definitely the ugliest with the worst traffic in particular.
Eh it has its problems but some of the suburbs are fantastic
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:29 am to Irons Puppet
There is a reason for Atlanta having the 7th most hotel rooms in the USA. Atlanta is a business hub, conventions are huge here and there are a ton of events held here. I for one would certainly say that no one plans their summer vacation to go to Atlanta for the heck of it, but there is a reason for the infrastructure. The key is that those who are coming to Atlanta for business certainly can bring their family along and have quite a bit to do.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:30 am to flyAU
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have quite a bit to do.
Eat chicken waffles in SWATS, tour the homes of some of their favorite rappers and get a tattoo on their faces in Underground (RIP in the near future).
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Underground
Speaking on our past discussion on taking Marta, I stopped taking it down to go to a Braves game since they made you walk through that God forsaken place.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:34 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Atlanta Population (MSA - 5.27M in 2010)
50.7% White Only (2,671,757)
32.4% Black Only (1,707,913)
10.4% Hispanic (747,400)
4.9% Asian (356,956)
What you are seeing is the reverse migration that occurred in the South in the pre-desegregation period. Atlanta seems to be the city of choice for the Black Community. Northern industrial cities are becoming ghost towns because of the job shifts. Corporations are also following suit with their Corporate HQs.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:34 am to flyAU
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Speaking on our past discussion on taking Marta, I stopped taking it down to go to a Braves game since they made you walk through that God forsaken place.
They actually changed it last year. Now you take it all the way to West End and then take a bus over to the Ted. It's actually much easier and faster. West End isn't exactly a fantastic stop, but you are in a crowd so it isn't a big deal.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:38 am to Irons Puppet
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Atlanta seems to be the city of choice for the Black Community
Has been for years. Home to Moorehouse, Clark Atlanta and Spellman. DeKalb County is the second-most affluent African-American county in the country behind Prince George's, MD. Metro Atlanta is one of the few concentrations of black wealth in America.
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Northern industrial cities are becoming ghost towns because of the job shifts. Corporations are also following suit with their Corporate HQs.
Corporations can come to Atlanta and hire from two elite schools in town : Georgia Tech and Emory, and also hire from the 3 very well respected HBCU's to boost their diversity scores and find well trained new staff. Add to that cost of living, the airport, Atlanta's track record with Fortune 500's and it's appeal to young people, and we are back to growing at a rapid pace seen before the recession.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Corporations can come to Atlanta and hire from two elite schools in town : Georgia Tech and Emory, and also hire from the 3 very well respected HBCU's to boost their diversity scores and find well trained new staff. Add to that cost of living, the airport, Atlanta's track record with Fortune 500's and it's appeal to young people, and we are back to growing at a rapid pace seen before the recession.
How many Tech Grads remain in Atlanta after graduation ? All good schools, but I do not think Corporations use local colleges in their formula for HQs location. If that is true, Boston would have every major Corporation HQ. Atlanta and GA has done what NJ did 40 years ago, make it tax friendly to move your HQ to that area.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:53 am to Irons Puppet
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How many Tech Grads remain in Atlanta after graduation ?
Tons. The majority of them. Midtown is full of them now with the new research centers being built there.
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I do not think Corporations use local colleges in their formula for HQs location
Well, they do. They very publicly note it as well.
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Boston would have every major Corporation HQ
That is exactly what happens in Boston, actually. There are tons of research and tech groups there solely because of MIT. Silicon Valley and the Private Equity groups there hire tons of kids from Stanford and Cal.
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Atlanta and GA has done what NJ did 40 years ago, make it tax friendly to move your HQ to that area.
That is part of the equation, yes. But if just being tax friendly was all that mattered Mercedes would be moving to Birmingham and Porsche would move to Laurel, MS. It's part of a much larger equation.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That is exactly what happens in Boston, actually. There are tons of research and tech groups there solely because of MIT. Silicon Valley and the Private Equity groups there hire tons of kids from Stanford and Cal.
Those research centers are all over the south. Take a look at Hunstville and other Engineering College Towns.
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That is part of the equation, yes. But if just being tax friendly was all that mattered Mercedes would be moving to Birmingham and Porsche would move to Laurel, MS. It's part of a much larger equation.
The airport is the secondary factor, taxbreaks being first. Ever been to Morristown NJ ?Quality of living plays a part, but most of those Corporate individuals live a sheltered lifestyle, they can live almost anywhere.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:23 pm to Irons Puppet
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Take a look at Hunstville and other Engineering College Towns.
And Huntsville keeps a lot of the UAH kids in town and has highly skilled and high paying jobs because of it.
Same with the Research Triangle in North Carolina.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:25 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
What exactly are you arguing?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:30 pm to flyAU
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What exactly are you arguing?
It's what he does.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:34 pm to flyAU
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Irons Puppet
quote:He doesn't know what he's arguing. He's an old belligerent jackass arguing just to argue.
What exactly are you arguing?
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 12:35 pm
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