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re: AU scout board reporting MSU under investigation for Newton recruitment
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:37 pm to augrad00
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:37 pm to augrad00
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Thank you Mr. Stranger, we'll take it in installments." Do you really believe Kenny would ask a total stranger for $180,000? How did he get this total stranger's phone number?
They were not total strangers. Do your research. I believe they were team mates. Those that commit crimes and get away with them over and over and over and over generally stop fearing the crime they are committing.
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:39 pm to Tds & Beer
investigating by talking to who again? Maybe they are just reviewing files they requested from Auburn? How are they going to get any information on Auburn's recruitment of Cam if they don't asking anybody about it?
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:39 pm to augrad00
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of course they did...Kenny must have some huge balls to call a man he doesn't know and ask him for $180,000. "Hey total stranger, can I have $180,000 to buy a player for our alma mater? Thank you Mr. Stranger, we'll take it in installments." Do you really believe Kenny would ask a total stranger for $180,000? How did he get this total stranger's phone number?
Kenny called Bond
Bond referred him to Bell after he called the AD
This was a set-up by us from that point and why we turned it in.
If we had a payment plan in place- Cam would have led us to the Sugar Bowl this past season
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:42 pm to Itsme2011
You should read what I was responding to first to get the context before replying. The person I was responding to was implying that Rogers and Bell didn't know each other prior to Camgate. 
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:43 pm to CoonassBulldog
The NCAA already probed the Newton's bank accounts / tax records and other financial accounts concerning the AU investigation last year. Will they do this again concerning Miss. State? Seems like the AU investigation that found nothing will help out MSU as well. 
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:45 pm to augrad00
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f they are investigating Auburn, do they think they will find about about Auburn recruitment of Cam from former State playeres?
State players?? Not following you. To date I don't know of a MSU player that was interviewed by the NCAA. What we DO know as a matter of FACTS:
1- Bond was asked what the NCAA/FBI wanted. His Quote was "they don't want people shoping kids around"
2- Cecil Newton stated.. ON RECORD:
A- Cecil requested money (which MSU stated that he did indeed)
B- Cecil Stated that NO money was ever offered by MSU (which Bond confirmed. Bell Confirmed)
So, for all those involved, MSU and the NEWTONs agree that the NEWTON family (cecil) approached MSU and MSU turned them DOWN. I do not see how you can not understand the reported facts.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:48 pm to CoonassBulldog
why did Bond refer Kenny to Bell? Why not just report it to AD? Was Bond willing to go along with the P4P but didn't have the money but knew Bell would have the money?
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:49 pm to Itsme2011
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A- Cecil requested money (which MSU stated that he did indeed)
B- Cecil Stated that NO money was ever offered by MSU (which Bond confirmed. Bell Confirmed)
Bell and Bond aren't associated with MSU according to MSU posters on this thread..
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:49 pm to CoonassBulldog
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This was a set-up by us from that point and why we turned it in.
Yet they continued to recruit Cam and wanted him to sign, then when he didnt, they told the SEC. yet when asked for the info, took 6-7 months to provide it. Then after shite hit the fan they said, oh wait there is more.
If it was a set-up and they knew what was going on, all recruiting contact would have been broken off in sept or novemeber, I forget when the initial contact happened.
It was not a setup. They might not of ever paid for Cam, but they would of hid the whole matter had he signed with MSU
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:50 pm to augrad00
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How are they going to get any information on Auburn's recruitment of Cam if they don't asking anybody about it?
We'll all sit and wait for Auburn officials to tell us when their people are being asked questions. They've been very forthcoming so far, so I'm sure we'll be the first to know.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:55 pm to Itsme2011
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State players
Rogers
Bond and Bell? at least one of them
are all ex state players, that is what is being referred to.
And I believe technically , Rogers requested the money for Cecil. Doesnt really change much though
Posted on 4/19/11 at 3:59 pm to augrad00
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why did Bond refer Kenny to Bell? Why not just report it to AD? Was Bond willing to go along with the P4P but didn't have the money but knew Bell would have the money?
Have not read any where in any report that BOND referred Rogers to anybody. I'm not talking about message board "I think that's what happened" crap. I'm talking reported or quotes of those involved.
Bond, according to what I have read, does very well for himself as well as Bell and Rogers.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:00 pm to NYCAuburn
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People seem to forget that Means was not the only one in the 2002 rulling, I believe Bama was punished for another recruit as well that never went to bama
Yes. Many Bama fans felt mistreated by the NCAA. My whole take on it is Dubose was hired so the "good O'le boys" could control the football program, knowing Dubose didn't have the power or inclination to stop it.
I've even heard rumors that powerful Bama boosters that didn't want to "blatently cheat" were actualy relieved to see some of the more unscruplous power brokers get put in their place.
As long as Bama has a strong head coach the program will stay relatively clean, if that's what the coach wants.
I don't think Saban need to resort to crooked recruiting. On the other hand how was Dubose supposed to convince players he was the brilliant coach that could get them to the league.
Kenny Smith went to Tennessee, but we were hammered for illegal benefits to induce him to sign with us (though no proof was presented).
Nobody claimed UT did anything wrong to change his mind.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:00 pm to AUtigR24
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A- Cecil requested money (which MSU stated that he did indeed)
B- Cecil Stated that NO money was ever offered by MSU (which Bond confirmed. Bell Confirmed)
Bell and Bond aren't associated with MSU according to MSU posters on this thread..
I don't know what your statement has to do with the quotes.. I also don't really care if they are or are not nor who or who does not say they are or are not.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:01 pm to Itsme2011
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Itsme2011
I believe one of them referred to the other, I forget which to who as the bond and bell names have intertwined in my memory.
BTW
to your cause. I had two grandparents suffer from itPosted on 4/19/11 at 4:05 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yet they continued to recruit Cam and wanted him to sign, then when he didnt, they told the SEC. yet when asked for the info, took 6-7 months to provide it. Then after shite hit the fan they said, oh wait there is more.
See that's what I love about this... GREAT JOB!
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If it was a set-up and they knew what was going on, all recruiting contact would have been broken off in sept or novemeber, I forget when the initial contact happened.
Another "adda boy"!!!
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It was not a setup. They might not of ever paid for Cam, but they would of hid the whole matter had he signed with MSU
"ADDA BOY!!!!" Ok.. I take it back! I would love to LOVE the logic, but to call it LOGIC would not be by definition correct.
Maybe an "adda boy" for trying????
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:06 pm to LOYALBAMA
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LOYALBAMA
What kind of scared me for yall, was a lot of the stuff in the Calloway shite thats going on, sounded very similar to some of the stuff that Bama was punished for in that rulling. Not saying any of it was true, and might be that Lee was just using stuff that was alike to support his claim.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:06 pm to Itsme2011
former State players, not State players. If you would have read my whole post you would realized that I was referring to former players Bond, Bell and Rogers but omitted the word "former" in that one line.
Everything you listed doesn't mention Auburn
Everything you listed doesn't mention Auburn
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:11 pm to augrad00
The source in question is interviewing MSU not Bond, Bell, and Rogers. 
Posted on 4/19/11 at 4:11 pm to Itsme2011
are you going to continue to read only my post and not the post of the person I'm responding to? If you would do that, you would be directing your statement at that person. There State fan that I was responding to stated that Bond referred Kenny to Bell. Ask him where he got his information.
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