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re: At some point you may have to have a covid vaccine to enter a sporting event?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:27 pm to 3down10
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:27 pm to 3down10
The vaccine works, however, viruses mutate. If you have a large group of morons who don’t get the vaccine, the virus mutates inside them and potentially becomes something the vaccines isn’t effective against. Those same morons then go on to say “see, the vaccine doesn’t work”.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:31 pm to aero1126
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I don’t think you can transmit abortions to others should you decide to get one… but maybe things work differently in Alabama.
That's not the operative point. Think harder and try again.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:32 pm to aero1126
That vaccine does work to kill people though. Shove that in your pink mask pussy.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:35 pm to jdevers
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Is it a biblical plague that will wipe us out? Not even close. Is it REALLY BAD NEWS for people in specific demographics? Very much so.
Pretty sure old people in a nursing home still need food. Still need power. Still need - stuff. That stuff won't get made from people sitting at home and doing a Zoom Conference because "we're all safer apart".
And the folks making that stuff won't be any safer taking a gene therapy that our betters are already saying is going to have to have a "booster" in three to six months.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:35 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Cool.
I won't go, then.
I was never anti-vaxx, but I've had the damned illness, have natural antibodies, and so it should be at my option whether I take the experimental vaccine.
I won't go, then.
I was never anti-vaxx, but I've had the damned illness, have natural antibodies, and so it should be at my option whether I take the experimental vaccine.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:37 pm to Bobbum Man
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That's not the operative point. Think harder and try again.
what you fail to understand........
abortions are not transferable.
diabetes is not transferable.
cancer is not transferable.
covid is.
In fact, it has killed roughly 600K more than influenza did from 2018-2019.............with basically the same number of people being infected with each.
ETA but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:43 pm to aero1126
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The vaccine works, however, viruses mutate. If you have a large group of morons who don’t get the vaccine, the virus mutates inside them and potentially becomes something the vaccines isn’t effective against. Those same morons then go on to say “see, the vaccine doesn’t work”.
People with the vaccine are still getting it. It is still going to mutate with them. They are still going to transmit it to other people, even those who are vaccinated.
At this point, the only thing they can claim about he vaccine that seems to have actual data to back it up, is that people who are vaccinated don't get it bad enough to die as often.
Outside that, your bullshite excuses are just bullshite excuses.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:46 pm to MrAUTigers
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what you fail to understand........
abortions are not transferable.
diabetes is not transferable.
cancer is not transferable.
covid is.
In fact, it has killed roughly 600K more than influenza did from 2018-2019.............with basically the same number of people being infected with each.
ETA but don't let facts get in the way of anything.
Abortions are literally killing another human. IT doesn't get much more "transferable" than that. It's a fricking direct consequence with a 99.9% mortality rate.
In fact, more babies are murdered in the US every year than people killed by covid. It's hard to find actual numbers because they just want to talk about rates, but it's about 800k a year.
Also, people with the vaccine are still getting it and spread it. And why do people who have natural immunity need it so badly?
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:46 pm to MrAUTigers
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covid is.
What you don't get - oh Hell - you get it - you just don't want to say it.
There's only so many hoops I can be guilted into jumping through to protect you. I am out of hops.
You took your shot. Believe in it - or don't. Spoiler Alert - regardless of how good it worked, you're going to die either way. Paraphrasing old Coach Howard Schnellenberger (imagine in a gravel voice)- "You are on a collision course with six feet of dirt. The only variable is time."
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:51 pm to ScoggDog
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You took your shot. Believe in it - or don't. Spoiler Alert - regardless of how good it worked, you're going to die either way. Paraphrasing old Coach Howard Schnellenberger (imagine in a gravel voice)- "You are on a collision course with six feet of dirt. The only variable is time."
brilliant logic.
Just walk out in front if a moving vehicle if that is your take on the situation.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:53 pm to 3down10
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is that people who are vaccinated don't get it bad enough to die as often.
Well in that case
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:54 pm to Crimsonite94
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So if we the vaccine works then why are we being required to wear mask while vaccinated?
They don't work (the "vaccine" nor the masks). The data clearly shows that now. In fact, the "vaccinated" people have become incubation chambers for the variants surfacing now.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:54 pm to MrAUTigers
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Just walk out in front if a moving vehicle if that is your take on the situation.
If I thought I wanted to - I would. And you should not care in the least.
But that's the thing with you. You, in particular. I don't need anything from you. But you insist on something from me.
I'd never shove you in front of a car. You demand the right to shove me into a doctor's chair. Because I have to keep you safe, in your head.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:54 pm to MrAUTigers
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what you fail to understand........
abortions are not transferable.
Of course an abortion isn't transferrable. Your point, I presume, would be you can't use the "my body, my choice" logic for vaccinations because of this difference.
Your first problem is an abortion absolutely negatively effects another being. You can claim it's not a human, what you can't claim is you aren't preventing what would be a life. It's NOT just your body, whether you agree with it or not. If it's "just your body", then what exactly is it being aborted? Part of your body??
Your second problem is it's an established fact that if you are vaccinated, you are almost guaranteed not to get severely ill or die. Or at least that's what everyone keeps saying, right?
So your point is the decision by a person to get an abortion doesn't effect other people (I would disagree, but that's not needed for this point), while you're decision not to get vaccinated DOES affect other people. The problem is my decision to to not vaccinate DOESN'T endanger anyone else (at least to any measurable extent) because of the above referenced fact.
Does the vaccine work or doesn't it? You need to pick one. If it does work, then it absolutely IS my body, my choice.
TLDR: If the vaccines work, then both abortions and vaccinations share the fact that they only affect the individual involved. The "my body, my choice" comparison holds. If you believe the comparison doesn't hold, you MUST think the vaccines don't work, just as a matter of deductive logic.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:56 pm to Numberwang
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Cool.
I won't go, then.
I was never anti-vaxx, but I've had the damned illness, have natural antibodies, and so it should be at my option whether I take the experimental vaccine.
Yep. I've had every other vaccine they make. And for anyone who hasn't been in the military or traveled abroad, I have vaccines they've never even heard of.
I'm not at risk of dying to the plague, but most everyone else here is.
But of course in this day, it's also the extreme with everyone. I'm suddenly an anti-vaxxer blah blah blah.
They have no logic, they only know how to build strawmans.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:58 pm to MrAUTigers
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brilliant logic.
Just walk out in front if a moving vehicle if that is your take on the situation.
Cool, so if you do anything that can be seen as bad for your health, you should do the same. Since that is apparently where your logic takes you.
Hope you don't drink alcohol or do anything "risky" in your life. I know you obviously don't drive a vehicle.
Oh yeah, your logic is shitty and stupid.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:59 pm to ScoggDog
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If I thought I wanted to - I would. And you should not care in the least.
right, because that only affects you. Your logic is beyond asinine.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:01 pm to 3down10
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Cool, so if you do anything that can be seen as bad for your health, you should do the same. Since that is apparently where your logic takes you.
Morons.
If I do something that is possibly detrimental to my health, that affects one person.
If I get a transferable disease/virus, and put other people at risk, that is affecting more than one person.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:02 pm to MrAUTigers
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If I get a transferable disease/virus, and put other people at risk, that is affecting more than one person.
HOW IS IT PUTTING VACCINATED PEOPLE AT RISK IF THE VACCINES WORK?
You can't get around this point, dude.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:03 pm to MrAUTigers
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right, because that only affects you. Your logic is beyond asinine.
As I said earlier - this is the perfect lie. Because it makes somebody like you think somebody like me owes you something. An act of compliance. Of contrition. Of, frankly, obedience.
If that shot you took was so good, you should be good. And I've got a great gun cabinet. Imagine how cheap you could buy all of those. My truck is exceptional. You could have it for a song, once the 'Rona takes me.
If that shot you took doesn't protect you ? Then it's not worth the risk you took.
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