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re: As the Tide recedes: **Update** Dawkins on tape discussing payment to Bama players
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:25 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:25 pm to lsupride87
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Its more than just "yaw yaw footbaw" trolling
This is exactly what it is, and was stickied by a yaw yaw football troll who just happens to be a mod.
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:26 pm to ReauxlTide222
44-16 is bout to become a fond memory in Fuctaloosa.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:26 pm to lsupride87
A response thread from LSU. Surprise surprise. 
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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No, I'm not. As I stated, with no coaches or boosters involved, there is nothing for the NCAA to consider - unless there is a "pattern" that stretches into the current four year period.
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Is there a statute of limitations for making allegations?
Yes. Allegations generally are based on violations that have occurred four or fewer years before the time an institution is notified of an investigation or an institution notifies the enforcement staff of violations. However, the enforcement staff may allege violations that have occurred beyond the four-year period if they involve (1) the eligibility of a current student-athlete, (2) a pattern of willful violations that began before the four-year window but continue into the four-year window or (3) a blatant disregard for certain fundamental rules (recruiting, extra benefits, academics, ethical conduct) or (4) an effort to conceal violations.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:26 pm to Rhino5
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In Bama's case, it seems they need to determine where Marty Blazer was getting the money from to pay the players, and why he wanted them to stay in school. They haven't addressed that yet.
They havent addressed that yet? I thought I read that he was a financial advisor and was using payments to secure future services if the athlete makes it to the NFL. That to me doesnt implicate schools unless the school directed the requests such as: "coach....my family needs some cash, can you help me?" "nah, but maybe i know someone that can, but....he's going to want your signature once you go pro"
I thought he named PSU and UNC in school orchestrated deals but in other cases he knew friends/family of PA kids
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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This is exactly what it is, and was stickied by a yaw yaw football troll who just happens to be a mod.
Dick dick dick c'mon dick
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:28 pm to MrLarson
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a blatant disregard for certain fundamental rules (recruiting, extra benefits, academics, ethical conduct)
You missed the word "blatant" in your bolded portion, which would mean someone at or associated with the University would have needed to know it was going on in some manner or another.
Some random dude paying people to choose a financial advisor has literally nothing to do with our football program cheating.
Statute of Limitations.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:28 pm to StopRobot
quote:This sounds similar to the Chuck Persons scheme. Paying players families $$ to steer them to an agent when they leave the school.
As recounted by CBS's Matt Norlander and reporter Adam Zagoria, Blazer said he paid athletes from multiple hundred to several thousand dollars. Blazer said he paid family members and associates of the athletes so they would choose him as their financial advisor upon turning pro
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:29 pm to lsupride87
This has nothing to do wit the actual school you idiots.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:29 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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That to me doesnt implicate schools unless the school directed the requests such as: "coach....my family needs some cash, can you help me?" "nah, but maybe i know someone that can, but....he's going to want your signature once you go pro"
If that happened with Bama we deserve any punishment we get
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:29 pm to CrimsonDynasty
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This has nothing to do wit the actual school you idiots.
Oh hush. Big bad daddy bammer is going down!
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:29 pm to 19
Saban could go on Facebook live handing out money, drugs, hookers, and dodge chargers to recruits with a tshirt on that says frick the NCAA and you know what would happen?
Not a damn thing.
Not a damn thing.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:29 pm to RT1941
quote:Yep, very similar to that scheme and the Reggie Bush scheme
This sounds similar to the Chuck Persons scheme. Paying players families $$ to steer them to an agent when they leave the school.
Two similar schemes that highlight the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the ncaa
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:30 pm to lsupride87
After the $cam Newton/Milt McGredor/Bobby Lowder, pay for play scandal, the NCAA has proven to me that either they don’t care, or they themselves are getting paid.
If they didn’t bust Auburn, they certainly can’t bust Bama.
If they didn’t bust Auburn, they certainly can’t bust Bama.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:30 pm to RT1941
quote:What ever happened to Auburn and those players?
This sounds similar to the Chuck Persons scheme. Paying players families $$ to steer them to an agent when they leave the school.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
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You missed the word "blatant" in your bolded portion, which would mean someone at the University would have needed to know it was going on in some manner or another. Some random dude paying people to choose a financial advisor has literally nothing to do with our football program cheating. Statute of Limitations.
Delusion at it’s best, right here.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:31 pm to CrimsonDynasty
quote:Having players being paid while at the school absolutely has to do with the school, regardless if they knew anything about it
This has nothing to do wit the actual school you idiots.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:31 pm to lsupride87
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It is you who isnt rational
Wades wire is stricken from the record and wont be available to the NCAA
Blazers testimony is on the record
For Wade to be caught, either he has to admit to the ncaa he cheated or one of our players has to roll over on him
For the Ncaa to nail Bama they simply need to ask a third party who has already admitting to paying Bama players
Once again, he testified about things that are way beyond the 4 year window, and there is no chance that a current player is involved.
Furthermore there is the context of what was exactly being done. Take the Albert Means case where you have an example of someone paying the player to come to school. That is the shite that is bad, boosters paying players to come to school.
This guy named a long list of schools which to me suggests this was more about influencing players after the fact. At which point in order for it to be bad for the school, there has to be evidence that the coaches/school knew about it, and that they did nothing about it, and/or actively covered it up.
So there is nothing in his naming of such schools that suggests any of that, nevermind it's well beyond the 4 year window.
But I guess some of you need this, so enjoy it while it lasts. Just remember me when you're sitting around in 6 months to next year wondering why nothing ever happened, and maybe then you'll accept the reasons why.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:32 pm to AU4real35
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Delusion at it’s best, right here.
Define "blatant rule breaking" as it relates to this situation and the University of Alabama as an institution
TIA.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:32 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:They anal raped Reggie Bush and USC the same time as Newton pretty much
After the $cam Newton/Milt McGredor/Bobby Lowder, pay for play scandal, the NCAA has proven to me that either they don’t care, or they themselves are getting paid.
If they didn’t bust Auburn, they certainly can’t bust Bama.
The NCAA has no consistency
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