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Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:09 pm to MMB5DAP
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:11 pm to MagicCityBlazer
So the suspension of a player without proof lasted all of one day. Find me a player that was actually suspended and actually missed games.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:17 pm to MagicCityBlazer
During this weeks long ordeal, has Manziel been able to repair the relationship with his Dad, Mom and God? I know his Dad had been saying in the media that he was disappointing all of them.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:19 pm to CockInYourEar
one of those 3 is not like the other
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:19 pm to CockInYourEar
Repair his relationship with God?
What the frick
What the frick
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:21 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Officially one month until we destroy the gumps.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:22 pm to 3andOut
I just want to ask an A&M fan. In your post you implied that you think Manziel is guilty, but it has to be proven. One of the main things that I have heard over the years was about the Aggy honor code and how much it means to you, and that nothing is more important than that. Don't you think that since you feel that he is guilty that it is going against the code to let JM stay on the team, and that you're putting the wins ahead of your code of honor? Now, I'm not saying that anything is wrong with that, because no one puts more emphasis on championships and winning than we Bama fans, but we admit that is the most important thing.
I don't remember a lot about the Albert Means case that got Bama in so much trouble, but does anyone know if the NCAA ever had actual proof and not just anonymous witnesses that a booster paid money? Did they have bank statements or pictures or tapes? I really don't remember quite how this all came down, except that Phillip Fulmar from Tenn. was one of the anonymous witnessess.
I don't remember a lot about the Albert Means case that got Bama in so much trouble, but does anyone know if the NCAA ever had actual proof and not just anonymous witnesses that a booster paid money? Did they have bank statements or pictures or tapes? I really don't remember quite how this all came down, except that Phillip Fulmar from Tenn. was one of the anonymous witnessess.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:24 pm to bama my heart
AU has their Creed but they said Frick it under the cam thing. All in
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:25 pm to bama my heart
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Phillip Fulmar from Tenn. was one of the anonymous witnessess.
the whole thing was a hit job on Alabama as the SEC teams recruiting Means (sans Alabama) were told the fuzz was on him.
Then the conference office didn't really defend Alabama the way it did auburn a few years later.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:26 pm to MagicCityBlazer
and didn't other schools names come up in the Albert means when it came to bidding
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:26 pm to bama my heart
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:27 pm to mrbroker
I'd say the odds of A&M knowing he took money and covering it up are next to zero. A&M is going to cover their arse.
If it comes out later they will have to vacate that is true, I think more evidence will have to come to light though. How interesting would it be if A&M beats Bama with Manziel and then they declare him ineligible?
If it comes out later they will have to vacate that is true, I think more evidence will have to come to light though. How interesting would it be if A&M beats Bama with Manziel and then they declare him ineligible?
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:27 pm to mrbroker
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and didn't other schools names come up in the Albert means when it came to bidding
They did, many SEC schools and even Michigan State were all in the bidding process.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:27 pm to bama my heart
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I just want to ask an A&M fan. In your post you implied that you think Manziel is guilty, but it has to be proven. One of the main things that I have heard over the years was about the Aggy honor code and how much it means to you, and that nothing is more important than that. Don't you think that since you feel that he is guilty that it is going against the code to let JM stay on the team, and that you're putting the wins ahead of your code of honor? Now, I'm not saying that anything is wrong with that, because no one puts more emphasis on championships and winning than we Bama fans, but we admit that is the most important thing.
You mean the Aggie Honor Code?
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:28 pm to aggressor
i think at this point compliance with TAMU has already asked JFF unless they don't want to know the answer. And if they have not asked the question up to now then I think that would fall under the lack of institutional control button.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:29 pm to mrbroker
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lack of institutional control button.
It would also be failure to monitor,
Which you know because they had a lack of institutional control!
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Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:31 pm to bama my heart
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I just want to ask an A&M fan. In your post you implied that you think Manziel is guilty, but it has to be proven. One of the main things that I have heard over the years was about the Aggy honor code and how much it means to you, and that nothing is more important than that. Don't you think that since you feel that he is guilty that it is going against the code to let JM stay on the team, and that you're putting the wins ahead of your code of honor? Now, I'm not saying that anything is wrong with that, because no one puts more emphasis on championships and winning than we Bama fans, but we admit that is the most important thing.
I don't remember a lot about the Albert Means case that got Bama in so much trouble, but does anyone know if the NCAA ever had actual proof and not just anonymous witnesses that a booster paid money? Did they have bank statements or pictures or tapes? I really don't remember quite how this all came down, except that Phillip Fulmar from Tenn. was one of the anonymous witnessess.
The fact that I think he is guilty is irrelevent. I am sure that A&M decision makers and the lawyers we hired strictly to protect the integrity of the University know a helluva lot more than me or anyone else on this board.
I have full confidence the right decision will be made, do I think he signed shite for money? Yeah. Based on everything else going on how could I not. Manziel isnt a true Aggie in the sense of the word. He came to us not because he wanted to play for us, but because his other choices would not let him sign as a QB. From a football perspective I am happy about that. From a Aggie student perspective I want him to play his 12-14 games and leave.
That being said I will support him on the field and I am looking forward to an exciting season.
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:31 pm to MagicCityBlazer
if I have reasonable belief that my 17 year old stole a stick of gum from the store. Am I guilty and culpable because I did not ask her or pull up all stones to uncover the truth.
Posted on 8/14/13 at 3:34 pm to bama my heart
The Code of Honor is an Aggie doesn't lie, cheat, or steal nor tolerate those who do. It is a very serious thing and if you accuse someone of violating it that's serious business. It takes more than just "well, I think they may have done it" to invalidate someone's honor. For that matter Johnny signing the autos and taking money isn't an honor code violation, it would only be a violation if he lied about it. I haven't seen Johnny come out and say he wasn't paid for signing autos.
Simply accusing someone of an Honor violation doesn't make them guilty. I sat on an Honor board in the Corps and a guy was accused of it but there wasn't definitive proof so he was found not guilty. I thought he probably lied but without proof you can't just assume he did based on how you feel.
Simply accusing someone of an Honor violation doesn't make them guilty. I sat on an Honor board in the Corps and a guy was accused of it but there wasn't definitive proof so he was found not guilty. I thought he probably lied but without proof you can't just assume he did based on how you feel.
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