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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54207 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:15 pm to
Bilas is a big advocate for paying college athletes. Of course he would be all over anything that supports that agenda.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9871 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:16 pm to
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You frickers kill me trying to crucify the NCAA and ESPN. College football would be shite without both


I don't get the crucify ESPN angle but the NCAA angle I can agree with to an extent. Mostly it's the smaller schools majority votes that are holding back the big boys
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:16 pm to
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Jay Bilas just exposed the NCAA for what they are...money making machine off the backs of college kids


No. He didn't. Because they sign an agreement with a full list of what they can and cannot do and can and cannot have.

If they want anything beyond that, then they should try out for the CFL, or AFL or NFL straight out of high school.

They can then pay for:

Their own weight rooms or membership to a gym.
Their own spa.
Their own game rooms.
Their tuition, books, board and supplies, and tutors if they want to go to school while playing professionally.
Their own meals.
Their own health care.
Their own doctors.
Their own nutritionists.


Perhaps they can still get Pell Grants.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54207 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156687 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:18 pm to
Booster A: Kid, I'd like to offer you a website where you can sell your autographed items for $1,000 each.

Booster B: Kid, don't listen to that slime from North Carolina a&t. I'll get you your own catalogue and sell your items for $1500 each.

Booster C: Kid, both those two aholes are goofy. Just sign my wife's left tit and I'll give you $100k. (Bama booster obviously)

It gets real out of control real quick if you let them sell their autographs and other items.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:20 pm to
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So now all the TAMU fans are going to jump on the "college players should get paid" bandwagon. Whatever works, I guess. And I agree for what it's worth.


for what its worth, I have believed that for a while now
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:20 pm to
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They can then pay for:

Their own weight rooms or membership to a gym.
Their own spa.
Their own game rooms.
Their tuition, books, board and supplies, and tutors if they want to go to school while playing professionally.
Their own meals.
Their own health care.
Their own doctors.
Their own nutritionists.


Yeah they get enough, imo. If they want anything else, they can set up some sort of pension that is contingent upon graduating.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:20 pm to
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I don't get the crucify ESPN angle but the NCAA angle I can agree with to an extent. Mostly it's the smaller schools majority votes that are holding back the big boys


It's because the smaller schools can't afford college athletics if it turns into a professional league or minor league for the NFL/NBA, which is what the big boys want
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54207 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:21 pm to
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It's because the smaller schools can't afford college athletics if it turns into a professional league or minor league for the NFL/NBA, which is what the big boys want

Quell progress to keep the have-nots happy

Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9871 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:21 pm to
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This is about a player breaking the rules, not whether the rules are fair or not...


Spot on! Even though many don't agree with the rules it doesn't mean you should break them or if you do then there shouldn't be a punishment.

Just like the BCS whining that took place . Everyone agreed to the rules prior to those season.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:21 pm to
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The day CFB officially becomes the minors for the NFL is the day I move onto something different.


then why are you even here?

its been the minors for the NFL for quite a while now.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Booster A: Kid, I'd like to offer you a website where you can sell your autographed items for $1,000 each.

Booster B: Kid, don't listen to that slime from North Carolina a&t. I'll get you your own catalogue and sell your items for $1500 each.

Booster C: Kid, both those two aholes are goofy. Just sign my wife's left tit and I'll give you $100k. (Bama booster obviously)

It gets real out of control real quick if you let them sell their autographs and other items.


Most sense anyone has made in this thread.

Paying athletes in college or letting them get compensated is a slippery slope.

Would not be much longer until we see high school recruits getting bid on like a cattle auction.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:23 pm to
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Quell progress to keep the have-nots happy


Paying players is not progress, would set NCAA football/basketball back
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54207 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:24 pm to
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Paying players is not progress, would set NCAA football/basketball back

I agree.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:24 pm to
I think he meant when college athletes are payed
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:26 pm to
quote:



It's because the smaller schools can't afford college athletics if it turns into a professional league or minor league for the NFL/NBA, which is what the big boys want


It's just a matter of time.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

I think he meant when college athletes are payed


A lot of them are paid under the table now.

Every single FBS school probably has at least 20 guys minimum taking money.

I don't see how being open about it would suddenly make it a minors NFL b/c, again, IT ALREADY IS.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:27 pm to
Just doin my part to get this baby to 200

Whats the Rant record?

Lets break the shite out of it and give Klarvin the boner he'll never forget.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
26446 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:28 pm to
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The NCAA wouldn't be able to regulate it and it instantly becomes an un-level playing field for schools who don't have those boosters.


It is already an un-level playing field. You think Rice will ever win a championship?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:28 pm to
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Whats the Rant record?



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