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re: As The Grove Burns: Laremy Tunsil Edition (Updated with Text Messages Link)

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Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:13 am to
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Up to 390 now. Does anyone know the record for tRant?



I would imagine we have a ways to go to catch the ATPB thread about Cam but I'm not sure.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:14 am to
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Where did all this burner phone stuff come from?
you know where.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:25 am to
I refuse to visit said place.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:33 am to
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Up to 390 now. Does anyone know the record for tRant?




Not even close
Posted by TROCKS50
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:10 am to
I imagine if a coach was shown to have given a recruit a "burner phone" it would be one of the highest level of violations a coach could make, perhaps besides lying to the NCAA.

You have an impermissible benefit (value of phone/prepaid card) and its use would hide an unknown amount of minor violations regarding recruit contact. The NCAA doesn't punish minor violations if the school self reports and deals with them by punishment guidelines but attempting to hide them to protect the coach from recruiting restrictions would probably be an ethics violation. I would see a show cause in that coaches future. I haven't heard anything about an allegation of this against Ole Miss so this is all hypothetical I guess. That would be a doozy though


NCAA investigators have been at Allen HS near Dallas within the past 2 weeks trying to gather more information about this practice being tied to Gregory Little's recruitment.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:13 am to
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Up to 390 now. Does anyone know the record for tRant?



lol
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:40 pm to
ATPB went into 200-300 pages maybe more
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:42 pm to
Well hopefully through the summer as more of this comes out we can spike to those kinds of numbers.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:44 pm to
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ATPB went into 200-300 pages maybe more


Are you referring to the amount of pages worth of your post on the ATPB? Because the thread itself had over 2000 pages here and another 2000 on the other site
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:48 pm to
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ATPB went into 200-300 pages maybe more


Do you really want people believe you don't know how many pages it had ATPB disciple?

You coupled the balls of BTT/BTH daily in that thread.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:52 pm to
Rocky, first of all "frick you," and hope u are doing well. I really don't remember. U could have written a great book out of all the shite in there.

You guys need info on the First page u can update on the status of the investigation so people can just go there to check status of the investigation. Your OP needs to add this from Whiskeyjohn. If you added dates etc would be better


So here is where I am at. Correct? Incorrect? Thanks.

- NCAA began investigating Ole Miss due to their women’s basketball and track programs.
- During that investigation, the NCAA turns up information on Saunders and his time at Ole Miss involving potential academic fraud with ACT testing procedures in Wayne Co.
- Several players recruited by and to Ole Miss are interviewed about their recruiting process with Ole Miss.
- That information, along with the Saunders info, leads the NCAA to ULL where Saunders went after leaving Ole Miss.
- The NCAA concludes that Saunders worked together with this lady administering the ACT tests for players he helped recruit to ULL.
- The NCAA issues their NOA to ULL based on their investigation – which actually started at Ole Miss and led them to ULL.
- The NCAA concluded that Suanders lied during the investigation in to ULL, failed to cooperate, and gave $6500 to a current ULL football player.
- When the NCAA interviews Saunders, Ole Miss has legal representation at the questioning.
- The NCAA concludes that Saunders was guilty of academic fraud while employed by ULL and give him an 8 year show cause.
- ULL self imposes penalties to include the loss of 11 scholarships over three seasons, limited off campus recruiting visits, and vacating the 2011 season.
- The NCAA Committee on infractions also placed ULL on probation until sometime in 2018 and vacated games during the 2012-14 seasons in which ineligible players played in games.
- In the ULL response to the NCAA Committee on Infractions, they claimed that Saunders had been involved with academic fraud in his job prior to being hired by ULL and that if they had known they would not have hired Saunders.
- The NCAA ruled that it didn’t matter and that ULL was responsible for Saunders actions.
- The wording of the ruling, along with the show cause for Saunders, indicates that the NCAA is serious about his actions while employed at Ole Miss and ULL.
- The NCAA, during their investigation in to the women’s basketball and track teams, uncovers other potential violations with the football program separate from the Saunders investigation.
- During the Saunders investigation in to Ole Miss, the Tunsil incident with the step father occurs.
- This incident between Tunsil and his step father leads to Tunsil being suspended for seven games due to receiving improper benefits.
- The NCAA issues their NOA to Ole Miss involving their athletic programs and names the football program in 13 of the 28 violations.
- Even during the time that the NCAA issued the NOA, they continue to investigate the Ole Miss football program – primarily focusing on three current football players and improper benefits.
- In addition, there are allegations that Ole Miss offered both R. Gary and Kongbo money to sign with Ole Miss in the latest recruiting cycle.
- The AD at Michigan makes public comments indicating that Gary was indeed offered money from other schools that were recruiting him at the time.
- Ole Miss issues a statement on after receiving the NOA that the accusations occurred mostly during the Houston Nutt era at Ole Miss.
- Nutt responds by saying that Ole Miss is deflecting away from the truth.
- Ole Miss signs a top 10 class on NSD.
- Former Ole Miss recruiting coordinator and current University of Texas DB coach Chris Vaughn cut ties due in part to the accusations at Ole Miss during his time at the school.
- Current Ole Miss Asst Recruiting Coordinator B. Wenzel resigns to pursue other opportunities. Ole Miss states his resignation is not tied to the ongoing NCAA issues at the school.
- The NCAA is still investigating Ole Miss even though they have issued one NOA to the university.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:58 pm to
Ole Miss guys should start here by reading the congressional testimony on NCCA "due process" in 2004. A few things have changed but it is mostly semantics.

LINK
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:02 pm to
Someone fill me in

is OM fricked?

eta welp I see tut made a timeline above. I'll read that shite now.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:02 pm to
This is all a really good Law Review article on how fricked up and petty the the NCAA is.

Breaking Bad: An Examination of the NCAA'
s Investigation Practices Over the Last Forty Years


LINK
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:05 pm to
Here is a great summary of how it currently works from Buckner. It says Div 2, 3 but basically the same.

LINK
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Are you referring to the amount of pages worth of your post on the ATPB? Because the thread itself had over 2000 pages here and another 2000 on the other site



link?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:06 pm to
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link?


I really wish the admins would unhide the ATPB for a day or so every year
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:08 pm to
I honestly don't remember that thread or know the acronym but have to think I was around for it and probably posted in it what is it?

As the plains burn?
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:09 pm to
There were over 40,000 replies on ATPB
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:09 pm to
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but have to think I was around for it


quote:

Member since Jan 2010

you were
quote:

what is it?


As the Plains Burn. I honestly am surprised I had to explain that
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:10 pm
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