re: As an Alabama fan, I'm embarrassed...

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I don't remember hearing near the outrage on the real "Nick Saban rule" about recruiting that was made because of lazy coaches.

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You understand that with this comparison you are essentially agreeing with people that think Saban, Bert and the gang are doing this out of laziness, right?

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Saban doesn't run the committee. Perhaps the anger is misdirected. When Saban asked if he could speak at the meeting, it was the chairperson's job to make sure that both sides were equally represented.

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Bret is on the committee. That may have been why there was no counter-point invited.

:putsontinfoilhat:

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Saban doesn't run the committee.

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I agree.

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Perhaps the anger is misdirected.

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Perhaps.

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They could have just as easily invited Leach, Sumlin, or Malzahn.

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Yes, they could have. And Leach, Sumlin, Malzahn could have asked to speak except for the fact that it appears the proposed change was not made known to all of the coaches. That is the issue many have. It appears only the coaches that believed a certain way were made aware of the proposal and given the opportunity to influence the committee.

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Then it should be called the "Bielema Rule."

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It should be called the Calhoun Rule...Troy Calhoun prought it to light. Interesting how he has publically backtracked.

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You understand that with this comparison you are essentially agreeing with people that think Saban, Bert and the gang are doing this out of laziness, right?

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No. Just making the comparison that it's funny how little backlash the lazy recruiting coaches received when their rule had absolutely nothing to do with player safety or well being, whereas Saban believes that his beliefs might have something to with safety. Of course, I haven't heard him say anything definitive other than asking a question.
Still don't understand why people are up in arms about a man expressing his opinion. He thinks that the HUNH puts his players at risk. That is his opinion. He has the right to express it.

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Saban carries more weight than Bert.

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I think most reasonable Bama fans, if the discussion was limited simply to the rule itself, would probably be against it. However, the hysteria over it and the "Saban scared" story line kind of forces Bama to defend their coach and take a position regarding the rule that they don't really believe.

Also, due to the rivalry with Auburn, it is easy bait to troll with on here for those that get joy out of trolling 100% of the time.

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BINGO!!!

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I don't get the big deal. He advocates for his opinion just like every other coach. Oh, he asked to speak at a meeting? Who the frick cares? It's not like he is the sole power in determining whether the rule passes. It likely will not.

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It absolutely would be a big deal to you if a rival coach sneaked his way into a meeting and tried to persuade a committee to pass a rule that limited your team's ability to play they way they want to. Bammers would be livid. So don't act like he did the right thing. What he did was distasteful and wrong.

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Not trolling. Trying to understand how and why so many of our fans can defend a coward like mentality. We report and change rules to adapt. That's weak, and it's sad that we have fans who would rather defend it instead of moving past it, adapting, and coming up with a better way to stop an offense that shredded us. Had Alabama beaten Auburn, none of this would matter. Sorry, it's true.

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As I said in another thread, I'm not a fan of the rule change either, but I do realize that there are a lot of things that take place on and around the football field that I'm not an authority on, so I leave that type of business to the folks that we hired to handle it. Now if a person gets his jimmies rustled when his manhood comes into question, then maybe he should step back and take a good inventory of that which makes him a "man". As an "Alabama man", I'm secure enough with what my "inventory" is comprised of, to not give a shite about what some jealous, wannabe school's fans say. My reply to them would be, "we'll be seeing you come this Fall, and then we'll see who the better man is.

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This could go on the Bama board, but I'll post it here to gather opinions of others. How can other Alabama fans defend this? We have a coach making $7 million a year and he can't figure out how to stop his biggest rival? He can't change his style or adapt? I understand safety, I get it, but even as an Alabama fan I have to say it's a bullshite out and excuse to try and slow down that which you can't stop on your own. ETA: certainly I'm not the only Alabama fan to feel this way.

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This would have been a good melt if posted by an Auburn fan. What a waste?!?!