re: Article: Johnny Manziel's 'crimes' are apparently worse than Jeremy Hill's

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Thank you IambamaFan for just telling it like it is. It's just going straight over the LSU peeps heads.

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Whoa buddy. Aggie fans should be the last to chime in these days.

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Was JFF on probation for statutory rape? And quit redefining the assault. He was not in a fight. He assaulted a guy who was fighting with someone else and drunk wasn't man enough to face him. He snuck him from Behind. Period

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So Hill's two misdemeanors trump JFF's 2 misdemeanors?

Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say it was ok, but you are equating two different things. Two consenting adults becoming physical with one another is not the same as sex with a minor. If the drunk at the bar had hit Hill, Hill has every right to defend himself. You just equated a moral obligation that women are not to be hit because they are women. While certainly chivalrous We are not to assault anyone regardless of gender. Again though I never said it was ok that Upshaw shoved her as the police report says or hit her if that was what he did; however, IF she attacked him (and ftr I don't know that she did) he has a right to defend himself but again you are comparing consenting adults with non consenting children.

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How long has it been since you've traded your morals and good sense for a win in college football?

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If Tom Osborne (coaching legend, US Senator, widely regarded as one of the great leaders, and quality men ever) played Lawrence Phillips and Christian Peter, so he could a NC, then I see nothing wrong with what Miles is doing with Hill.

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All you people talking about the Honey Badger aren't helping your case any. He failed like 15 drug tests before being kicked off the team


Sound bite blown out of proportion. Do you really think LSU drug tests its players 10 times a year? No team does that. thats insane

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I don't even bother debating this one usually because its just not worth it but yes this seems to be one of those internet legends with no reliable source.

The idea TM failed more than 3 drug tests at LSU came out from an anonymous source from one of the NFL teams allegedly interviewing him during the pre-draft process (a guy who wished to remain anonymous alleged TM said he failed like 7 or 10 drug tests instead of 2 or 3 tests). After the 24 hour cycle of that being repeated on ESPN etc TM responded that this was incorrect - that he had only failed the previously reported 2 or 3 tests... but it was too late. The news cycle had told the story and it was an appealing story to say more positives instead of less.

Should we believe TM's denial? In this case I think so. If he were coming clean in his pre-draft interviews about his drug use/positive tests the last thing he could have afforded to do at that point would be to then turn around and lie about those admissions (make every team he talked to think he was a liar with no character on top of a pot smoker who didn't stop using when he should have). Should we believe an anonymous source? Maybe not in this case. There's an obvious motive for a team interested in a player like him as a late round pick (low risk/high reward) to talk him down if they might want him.

Well this is Hill's first incident since being on LSU's campus

Just saying

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The no loss in regulation quote when lobbying for his team is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. The idea that he was smart enough to get the media to run with it is even better

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Les loves fricking with the media and he's doing it right now with this Hill situation and by closing the team practice. Just because he didn't tell the media Hill's punishment, they ran with a story that's not true which made them say the team voted on Hill's suspension. That vote was to see if he's allowed back on the team and to see if the rest of the team is tired of all of that extra bs going on outside of football.

Even though Miles hasn't said anything about punishment for JH, you better believe there is one. He's just always selective on what he tells the media.

nvm, my fellow bros already covered my points exactly.

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Since when does a domestic dispute between two consenting adults with her allegedly hitting him and him pushing her down according to police reports equate to a man having sex with a child? How long has it been since you've traded your morals and good sense for a win in college football? This is just deflection.

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You are retarded. Law says he's a man and she's a child. You like to talk reality? In reality, you are no more a man when you turn 18 than you are at 15. I had sex with an 18 year old 10 days after her birthday, whewwwww I was really close to putting my penis in a baby, cause ALOT changed in those 10 days let me tell you. You keep saying man->sex->child and I think you're picturing like child molestation and shite, which isn't the case here. Take a step back bra.