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re: Arrests made in the Ole Miss deaths

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Posted by Warwick
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:32 pm to
glad i can still buy legal cannabis thats lab tested
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:32 pm to
You will think I'm lying but I shite you not when I tell you this.....There was a Muzzie owned store in a neighboring county, three blocks from the court house that was selling prepackaged Meth kits...Everything you needed to make Meth was inside the bag with the instructions...
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Like the "regulated" opioid epidemic caused?


I’ve reference this a number of times now.

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Like the crack epidemic (which you can thank daddy government for creating) caused?


You’re right. The government caused this. But are you saying that you’re perfectly fine crack being prevalent in your community? Do you consider it to be a net-positive?


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Has there been a Kratom epidemic causing a surge of deaths in the streets?


Have you noticed that I haven’t talked at all about kratom yet? But at the end of the day, it’s still illegal to sell for the people in the OP. If you want the laws to change….then write your representatives.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:37 pm to
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Once again…..the epidemic has nothing to do with the government entities which regulated them.


The FDA approved it. Of course, the doctor that approved it at the FDA left shortly after and got a job a Purdue Pharma.

In fact, the The President’s Commission found the FDA was a partial cause of the epidemic by dropping the ball (like the normally do).

Had the FDA done their job (I know, asking any government agency to actually do their job is laughable), OxyContin would not have been rubber stamped like it was, and thousands of lives wouldn't have been lost/destroyed.

This is all well-documented.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:37 pm to
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you cannot die from kratom overdose.


And yet people are dying. You are missing the entire point.

This stuff is unregulated and easy to manipulate.

Maybe it had a role to play here and maybe it didn't. It's obviously not vitamin C.

How about quit taking the shite instead of advocating for it? The one thing that separates us from the wild animals is that we have the gift of critical thinking and should be able to deduce between what's good for us and what's not so much.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:39 pm to
We had a window tint and trim place here in BR get busted for making meth on site.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:40 pm to
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The FDA approved it. Of course, the doctor that approved it at the FDA left shortly after and got a job a Purdue Pharma. In fact, the The President’s Commission found the FDA was a partial cause of the epidemic by dropping the ball (like the normally do). Had the FDA done their job (I know, asking any government agency to actually do their job is laughable), OxyContin would not have been rubber stamped like it was, and thousands of lives wouldn't have been lost/destroyed. This is all well-documented.


All of this shows evidence of them loosening the regulation. You even said it your self…..they dropped the ball.

When properly regulated -> no epidemic
When not properly regulated -> epidemic.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:42 pm to
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If you can't trust a guy named Islam Mohamed then who can you trust?
i dont trust his hairdresser
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:42 pm to
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And yet people are dying. You are missing the entire point. This stuff is unregulated and easy to manipulate. Maybe it had a role to play here and maybe it didn't. It's obviously not vitamin C.


This.

For the same reason why a few here are saying to hold off on blaming Kratom because we don’t know yet……maybe hold off on saying that unregulated sale of Kratom isn’t a problem.

If it comes back that it was a tainted batch of Kratom….that really destroys a few arguments made so far.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:43 pm to
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But are you saying that you’re perfectly fine crack being prevalent in your community?


Nope, I wouldn't live in a crackhead neighborhood.

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Have you noticed that I haven’t talked at all about kratom yet? But at the end of the day, it’s still illegal to sell for the people in the OP.


Legality != morality.

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If you want the laws to change…then write your representatives


They're too busy kissing a wall and cashing AIPAC checks to listen.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Nope, I wouldn't live in a crackhead neighborhood.


A crackhead neighborhood wasn’t always a crackhead neighborhood. But you’ve already said earlier that what others do doesn’t affect you. If that were truly the case(which we both know it isn’t), then living in a neighborhood with a bunch of crackheads shouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:49 pm to
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I agree. I don't think the government does a good enough job explaining what they are doing or what they are trying to accomplish with ICE.

When they deport these people, there should be more made about it. Explain what the goals are, what the current achievements to those goals are.

Whose idea was it to put ICE in masks?

All the news stories of the hard working hispanics that they chase down and tackle on JOB SITES while slugs like these in the article are actively selling illegal drugs to our kids and making no effort to assimilate.


You could've just written "I'm a moron" and saved us all a bunch of time.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:52 pm to
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When properly regulated -> no epidemic
When not properly regulated -> epidemic.


No, you're putting government agencies up on a pedestal when they should be smashed into 1,000 pieces. The government will ALWAYS drop the ball. Thinking of them as an infallible god is strange and naive.

Drug scheduling (oxycodone as Schedule II) - regulated
FDA approval of OxyContin (product, label, indications) - regulated
Manufacturer DEA registration - regulated
DEA production and procurement quotas - regulated
Factory quality, security, and diversion controls - regulated
Wholesale distributor DEA registration and ARCOS reporting - regulated
Import/export of the drug - regulated
Physician state medical licensure - regulated
Physician DEA registration to prescribe controlled substances - regulated
Legal standard that a prescription must be for a legitimate medical purpose - regulated
Pharmacy state licensure - regulated
Pharmacy DEA registration to dispense - regulated
Pharmacist duty not to fill invalid prescriptions - regulated
Recordkeeping, inventories, and official order forms - regulated
Controlled-substance packaging and labeling - regulated
Prescription-drug advertising claims (FDA) - regulated

Tell me more about how regulation = safety?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:56 pm to
Hopefully Texas will learn from this tragic lesson. These MF'ers are taking over our country.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:59 pm to
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A crackhead neighborhood wasn’t always a crackhead neighborhood. But you’ve already said earlier that what others do doesn’t affect you. If that were truly the case(which we both know it isn’t), then living in a neighborhood with a bunch of crackheads shouldn’t be a problem.


You’re mixing two different claims.

I did not say other people’s choices never affect me. I said they don’t give me a right to ban peaceful conduct just because I dislike the results. Plenty of things affect me that I still don’t get to outlaw: a noisy neighbor, a failing restaurant, morons that ride bicycles in traffic, a store that sells junk food. Effects are not the same thing as rights violations.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4604 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:59 pm to
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Tell me more about how regulation = safety?



It's funny that through all your textual diarrhea you refuse to address or even acknowledge the critical difference between legal use and illegal use.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
5820 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 2:04 pm to
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It's funny that through all your textual diarrhea you refuse to address or even acknowledge the critical difference between legal use and illegal use.


In most cases, "illegal use" just means "legal with a fee".

Stop being so consumed about others and if they are doing something you don't approve of.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 2:07 pm to
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And yet people are dying. You are missing the entire point.
the blind idiocy is startling. no, it is in fact YOU who's missed the point.
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This stuff is unregulated and easy to manipulate.
There's nothing to regulate. Mitragyna speciosa is a plant made into powder form for supplement use. You're failing to differentiate between the plant mitragyna speciosa and liquid elixirs and synthetic opioids that have nothing to do with the natural plant.
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Maybe it had a role to play here and maybe it didn't.
natural kratom powder capsules did not play a role, I assure you. I can package fentanyl in tylenol form in tylenol bottles and if it killed you, you wouldn't say you died from tylenol.
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How about quit taking the shite instead of advocating for it?
I don't take it. I broke my back and took 3 grams of natural powder capsules in the morning after PT and once that was over I never utilized it again. I guess I could've eaten tylenol and destroyed my liver. You don't get to tell people how to manage their chronic pain, boomer.
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we have the gift of critical thinking and should be able to deduce between what's good for us and what's not so much.
that's rich coming from someone making the insane argument that kratom itself caused multiple overdose deaths. 3 grams of mitragyna speciosa powder in the morning isn't bad for you, you hick. it's physically impossible to overdose on it. you'll vomit before it could even be absorbed.

look, i cannot make you understand verified scientific facts: the mitragyna speciosa plant does not - it CANNOT - have the chemistry to cause respiratory arrest. that's not up for debate. Get off boomerbook and take a lap.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4604 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 2:07 pm to
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In most cases, "illegal use" just means "legal with a fee".

Stop being so consumed about others and if they are doing something you don't approve of.


You're not cool.

In every case that you previously listed, when those items are used legally as prescribed, there isn't a problem. So you're trying really hard to be edgy and cool here, but you're failing miserably.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
5820 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 2:11 pm to
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In every case that you previously listed, when those items are used legally as prescribed, there isn't a problem


I'm really sorry, but I have to ask - are you retarded?

I've talked about OxyContin a great deal, but somehow, you're still clinging to "Well, if it is legal, then there's no problem" argument?
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