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re: Arkansas' Never Ending New Facilities (2015)

Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:12 am to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:12 am to
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Wouldn't that mean you continually had a roster of 51 players yearly?



No, it meant we've had room to take transfers and give walk-ons schollies for the past 3 years now.

Depending on the size class Bert signs this year, some may be asked to transfer as the roster will actually be close to max capacity with recruited scholarship players.


2014 Arkansas Razorbacks
10 Redshirt Seniors
Patrick Arinze
Daunte Carr
Luke Charpentier
AJ Derby - Walk On
Cameron Jefferson
Johnathan McClure
Braylon Mitchell
Chris Stringer
Alan Turner
Demetrius Wilson

8 Seniors
Tiquention Coleman
Brey Cook
Allan D'Appollonio
Trey Flowers
Sam Irwin-Hill
Tevin Mitchel
Martrell Spaight
Carroll Washington

11 Redshirt Juniors
Brandon Allen
Austin Beck
Marcus Danenhauer
Rohan Gaines
DeMarcus Hodge
Mitchell Loewen
Davyon McKinney
Grady Ollison
Mitch Smothers
Alex Voelzke
Kody Walker

5 Juniors
Keon Hatcher
Will Hines
Otha Peters
Sebastian Tretola
Jonathan Williams

11 Redshirt Sophomores
Cordale Boyd
Jared Collins
Eric Hawkins
Cody Hollister
Taiwan Johnson
Brandon Lewis
Darius Philon
Jeremy Sprinkle
Jeremy Ward
JaMichael Winston
Deatrich Wise Jr.

9 Sophomores
Alex Collins
DJ Dean
Brooks Ellis
Hunter Henry
Denver Kirkland
Korliss Marshall
Drew Morgan
Dan Skipper
Josh Williams

9 Redshirt Freshmen
Austin Allen
Tevin Beanum
Alex Brignoni
De'Andre Coley
Denzell Evans
Reeve Koehler
Ke'Tyrus Marks
Damon Mitchell
Kendrick Payne - Walk On

21 Freshmen
Anthony Brown
Tyler Colquitt
Jared Cornelius
Juan Day
Kendrick Edwards
Dwayne Eugene
Cornelius Floyd
Khalia Hackett
Jake Hall
Cole Hedlund
Bijhon Jackson
Jack Kraus
Josh Liddell
Rafe Peavey
Frank Ragnow
Santos Ramirez
Randy Ramsey
JoJo Robinson
Henre' Toliver
Brian Wallace
Armon Watts

10 of the 18 Seniors this year are former/current walk-ons or JUCOs signed in Bert's first class.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10164 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:14 am to
It's not hard to be better than something that isn't built
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:20 am to
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We were pretty low last season.

In Petrino's last 3 classes, 26 are no longer here


If my math is correct, there are 83 scholarship players on this year's roster, 20 spots will be available for the 2015 recruiting class if there are no transfers.

So Bert will have signed 24, 25, 20+ given 5 walk-ons schollys, but Petrino didn't have a problem with attrition.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:21 am to
Will the Fastest 40 Minutes stay up there once Mike Anderson gets fired?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

but Petrino didn't have a problem with attrition.


Who said he didn't? I was just curious about the 40% number. That would be astronomical.

UF has been a victim of this too. I can't remember the last time we were at 85.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7517 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:25 am to
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Will the Fastest 40 Minutes stay up there once Mike Anderson gets fired?


If we make the NCAAT next year like we're projected to then we won't have to worry about it

That will kind of always be our slogan though
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5601 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:25 am to
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It's not hard to be better than something that isn't built

Touche

Although Bama fans have been toutin imaginary championships for years, so there's some precedent.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10164 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:26 am to
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That will kind of always be our slogan though


Hire Bo Ryan next and then see if that changes.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72247 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:31 am to
10, 15, 21...it's still more than anyone else. But facilities are judged on the eye of beholder. Some like Oregon, others LSU or Tennessee. Of course I'm partial to what Alabama has. But I doubt any of those mentioned feel they're second to anyone.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:33 am to
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Who said he didn't? I was just curious about the 40% number. That would be astronomical.

UF has been a victim of this too. I can't remember the last time we were at 85


It was close to 40% in the 30% range for sure the last time I calculated it.

It wasn't just that a bunch of people left/never made it, it was that it was entire positions taking on the attrition like WR, QB, S, CB, and LB. LB hurt the worse because he only signed 7 of them and 4 transferred out. He signed 20 something WRs and only 3 remained for last year's roster.

The other problem it created was with the APR, but in football you have more lead way than in Basketball, Pel decimated the APR with the attrition his program saw. Mike Anderson's hands were tied with the roster due to this, Pel didn't recruit well here in terms of talent either which didn't help.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:36 am to
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10, 15, 21...it's still more than anyone else. But facilities are judged on the eye of beholder. Some like Oregon, others LSU or Tennessee. Of course I'm partial to what Alabama has. But I doubt any of those mentioned feel they're second to anyone.


All SEC programs who are serious about competing have nice facilities, its a necessity. Aggy thought their facilities were "top notch", which they were in the big12, but not in SEC standards.

Outside of the SEC, very few schools invest across the entire department in facilities like you see in the SEC.

Arkansas had "top notch" facilities in the SWC, they were not "top notch" when we moved into the SEC compared to our peers.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31083 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:36 am to
Petrino left Kragthorpe and Louisville in the same boat when he left for Atlanta

quote:

December 2008 Jurich, the Cardinals AD, on the ongoing process of cleaning up Petrino's Louisville mess:

Bobby went to areas where he thought he was strong recruiting and some of them panned out and some didn't. That's the nature of it. But listen, we had to clear out a lot of discipline issues. And our numbers suffered. We cleared 21 kids out of here, and that's a lot. That's a big hit for anybody to take, Eric. I don't know anyone that has. But we want to do things the right way.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84882 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:38 am to
Arky is just now getting a basketball ops building and student athlete center??
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5601 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:40 am to
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10, 15, 21...it's still more than anyone else.

Exactly how I feel about our facilities. Even though we just broke ground, they're still better than yours.

Sun post more pics, almost time for my late T+0 trading fap session.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46476 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:00 am to
I <3 your facility fap threads SunHog

tFlagship is looking good to dominate the SEC in facilities for the foreseeable future. Which will only help our on the field production
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46476 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:18 am to
quote:

December 2008 Jurich, the Cardinals AD, on the ongoing process of cleaning up Petrino's Louisville mess:

Bobby went to areas where he thought he was strong recruiting and some of them panned out and some didn't. That's the nature of it. But listen, we had to clear out a lot of discipline issues. And our numbers suffered. We cleared 21 kids out of here, and that's a lot. That's a big hit for anybody to take, Eric. I don't know anyone that has. But we want to do things the right way.

Damn that's bad
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
46476 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Arky is just now getting a basketball ops building and student athlete center??

Right. And ours is now better than most if not all of the teams in the SEC
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46476 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

When is this going to turn into championships?

Soon

It certainly isn't hurting our chances
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:45 pm to
And they re-hired him
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