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re: Arkansas Malzahn Hypothetical

Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Don't think Malzahn has much offensive credibility anymore. Don't know why anybody would want his offense.


You probably don't know why bc you are a retard.

When he has a good Dual threat QB his offense is exceedingly hard to stop. He hasn't had a good scrambling QB since 2014. This confernce is also still won by running the ball and his teams generally are a top 3 rushing team in the conference every year.

'14 Ohio State, '13 Auburn, '10 LSU games were the only 220+ rushing yard games Bama has allowed under Saban. Auburn had 296 rushing yards. The most ever allowed by Saban.

'14 Auburn put 630 yards on Bama, the most ever allowed by Saban, and Marshall, who Is essentially a Tailback playing QB threw for 450 yards, the most passingly yards against the tide other than Deshaun Watson.

And in case you haven't noticed, which you probably haven't, Bama generally fields the best defense in the country year in and year out.

Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Arkansas will compete for the West this year


We're talking about football.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:46 pm to
OK. Once more from the top I will explain why the Gus Bus will not be parked in Fayetteville.

BowlJackson should be able to tell you this since these threads are like crack to him but it interrupts his prime trolling time and he's a man with few hobbies bless him.

Houston Nutt. Do I mean the well document spate Nutt and Malzahn had? No.

Nutt was very tight with a group of quite well to do Little Rock boosters. Getting rid of him was like pulling teeth and left a lot of people sulky. Some of those folks are still sulky.

Gus is very tight with a group of bat shite crazy... err... enthusiastic folks just up the road from Fayetteville in Springdale. So if we did hire Gus and then had to fire him the school would have the Houston Nutt situation all over again... only this time in their back yard.

Arkansas will not hire a head football coach with substantial ties to a main booster group in this state for another generation I would imagine.

It doesn't matter whether the Gus scheme would work here or not, or whether he and Nutt are still mad about their lover's quarrel. The only way Arkansas would bring him back is if Arkansas goes through three or so years of losing records and even then they'd offer the bank to just about anyone else.

Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Of all the ignorant shite on this board you just put the ignorant-est shite ever, well done


Do you honestly expect anybody to actually believe that even a single Arkansas fan would stop supporting the Razorbacks if Malzahn was HC, let alone "90% of the fanbase head to Arkansas State"?

BULL shite. Nobody is buying that. It's laughable. You guys would forgive him of whatever petty BS you're mad at him for the second he won his first game and y'all would keep right on sailing
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:53 pm to
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You probably don't know why bc you are a retard.


Not only is he retarded, but he's not even an Auburn fan at all. He's a Bama alter troll and he's admitted that he graduated from Bama.

Gus had some QB issues the last couple years, but we'll keep right on rolling this year. Hell we were rolling very well on offense last year for the games we had a healthy QB and RB. Even set a school record for rushing yards in a game against Arkansas
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 4:58 pm to
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You guys would forgive him of whatever petty BS you're mad at him for the second he won his first game and y'all would keep right on sailing


Who knows? But barring a miracle or change of personnel at the University I can safely say Arkansas will never extend a contract offer to Gus even if he offered to pay Arkansas to let him be the head coach.

We had a miserable enough time with the Springdale Mafia once we didn't hire Gus. If we hired and then shite canned him the administration would be plagued with those folks whining and complaining for a decade or more.

Its a moot point.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:02 pm to
Malzahn at his worse is still better than Bert. It's always possible Malzahn would go to a much lesser program like Arkansas, but not sure he would stoop that low.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Malzahn at his worse is still better than Bert. It's always possible Malzahn would go to a much lesser program like Arkansas, but not sure he would stoop that low.


Yes, in the 26 games we've played y'all have won three games more then us. We are obviously pitiful.

Christ you guys and the LSU fans need to check your homework before you try to use that trolling attempt. Saying we are such a horrible, horrible team when your team only has a three game edge in the series does not cover your team in glory.

I'd expect such poor trolling from LSU but I hold the handful of year round Auburn posters to a higher standard.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:13 pm to
Okay, that's reasonable to say that politics won't allow him to be hired at Arkansas.
But you have to admit it's a little ridiculous for some of y'all to claim the fanbase would mutiny if he was hired.

Objectively, in a world where weird hillbilly politics weren't involved and nothing but football and on the field results were taken into account, would Arkansas view Malzahn as a good hire?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:14 pm to
You only judge your programs success based on your record vs us? Interesting admission.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:17 pm to
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Bear Bryant, Jimmy Johnson


These two are not like the others.

Bear Bryant was close to coming back to Arkansas.

Jimmy would have taken the job had it been offered. We passed on him and he went on to Miami.

Nobody in Arkansas dislikes Bear Bryant and Jimmy Johnson.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Okay, that's reasonable to say that politics won't allow him to be hired at Arkansas.
But you have to admit it's a little ridiculous for some of y'all to claim the fanbase would mutiny if he was hired.

Objectively, in a world where weird hillbilly politics weren't involved and nothing but football and on the field results were taken into account, would Arkansas view Malzahn as a good hire?




Enh some folks really dislike his offensive scheme and he seems a bit autistic (and there is that whole constant nose picking thing, y'all need to talk to him about that). I do think if Houston Nutt hadn't shite the nest for Arkansas football coaches Malzahn probably would have landed the Arkansas job over Bert just because he wanted it so bad we could have gotten him cheap.

Mind you, I am not saying he dislikes Auburn, I'm fairly sure he's happy to be there and its a fine job. But Gus really wanted the Arkansas job the same way someone who had grown up an Auburn fan and attended Auburn would really want the Auburn job.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:19 pm to
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Yes, in the 26 games we've played y'all have won three games more then us. We are obviously pitiful.


But Malzahn is 3-1 .750 vs Bert.
And if everybody is being honest with themselves we all know he should be 4-0 because it took 4 OT for Bert to get the one win and it took Auburn's WRs dropping literally 10 passes to even get to OT in the first place.

So by the all-time numbers, Bert has Arkansas performing at a historically bad level against Auburn. As long as Bert is your HC that gap will only continue to widen.

That should put Gus vs Bert into perspective for you
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:20 pm to
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You only judge your programs success based on your record vs us? Interesting admission.




You have to judge yourself by how you fare when it comes to taking on teams that are pretty much at your level. You know... someone who is historically a middle of the road SEC team.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:22 pm to
So what is Arkansas' record vs Malzahn as HC at Auburn?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Bert has Arkansas performing at a historically bad level


You could have ended it there and gotten most of the Arkansas fans to agree with you. He has under performed against a lot of the SEC. Bert has to win fairly convincingly this year or he might be out the door. That is no great secret.

I hope he can do it, not only because he's our coach but because he's a lovable lug. But if he wins 6 games next year fans are going to be in a full blown mutiny.

Oddly enough, the same thing can be said for Gus to a degree. If Malzahn struggles this year (though y'all have some good talent) and only wins 6 games don't you think Auburn fans would be baying for his blood?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26706 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:28 pm to
He's done well against Bert. But Bert can really only hang his hat on doing very well against Ole Miss and a .500 mark against LSU when it comes to SEC play.

To put it in perspective Gus isn't doing as well against Bert as Sumlin. And Sumlin at least knows how to tie one on bless him.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29570 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:35 pm to
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someone who is historically a middle of the road SEC team.


You should be judging yourself against other teams who have never won the SEC then.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Oddly enough, the same thing can be said for Gus to a degree. If Malzahn struggles this year (though y'all have some good talent) and only wins 6 games don't you think Auburn fans would be baying for his blood?


Well yeah obviously. But the difference is it's not realistic for Auburn to only win 6 games this year. For Arkansas not only is it a realistic possibility to only win 6 games, it's arguably likely.

quote:

To put it in perspective Gus isn't doing as well against Bert as Sumlin.


Sumlin is 4-0 and Gus should be 4-0

Sumlin has had two close games with Arkansas that could have just as easily been 4 OT wins for Arkansas. And of the 4 wins only 1 was a true blowout.

Gus has blown out Arkansas in all 3 wins , including one absolutely epic, record-breaking beat down of biblical proportions. And the one loss quite honestly should have been a close win for Auburn.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49734 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 5:47 pm to
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Not only is he retarded, but he's not even an Auburn fan at all. He's a Bama alter troll and he's admitted that he graduated from Bama.

Who the frick cares that I graduated from Bama. You sound like an idiot every time you call me a Bammer because only a simple search of my post history indicates that I'm clearly not. You're the shittiest poster on the site. Quit whining like a bitch.

Malzahn isn't even running the offense anymore because it literally drove him batshit crazy. Malzahn is the one that schemed up the five QB rotation against Clemson and the fullback passes on 4th down. He lost his offensive genius a long time ago. I stand by my statement.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 5:56 pm
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