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re: Arkansas Inferiority?

Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:32 pm to
Ark....you hired a great sleaze dick coach that brought your program out of mediocrity...congrats....your best teams in 20 years beat the Ags 3 years in a row. Now what? You have a goofy arse coach........again. I know what that feels like because the Ags have been their the last 10 years. But, seriously, you guys talk all this shite and you haven't won dick. At least the Ags won a Big 12 title....
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25543 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:35 pm to
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t least the Ags won a Big 12 title....


And that has what to do with the SEC?

quote:

You have a goofy arse coach........again. I know what that feels like because the Ags have been their the last 10 years.


We are smart enough to sign the guy driving the sleigh to a 10 month contract..
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:38 pm to
Aggiereg apparently doesn't understand that even with all of the resources at aggies disposal, they still can't beat ark and they still manage to lose to teams like..... Oh.... Arkansas State.

Now that's capitalizing right there
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:41 pm to
^^^^again, you have done what?
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25543 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:44 pm to
The best we can say is that we are a top 25 program all time, with multiple SWC championships, Won the SEC West 3 times, been to a BCS game and have owned aTm from the get-go...

The Aggs keep bringing up coaching, but look at what we had prior to Petrino. You guys just need to quit making excuses
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:45 pm to
And Arky lost to Kentucky in 2008...and your point of losing to Arky State is what?
Posted by dawginar
Member since Jan 2012
1141 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:45 pm to
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At least the Ags won a Big 12 title....


And KState has also. And in the last 4 meetings with these BIG 12 powers we are 4-0.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25543 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:47 pm to
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and your point of losing to Arky State is what?


you should try to beat tTugboat first
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:50 pm to
Yeah, we did suck in '08. Hell, we both sucked. Y'all only beat Western Illionis by 4 and La-Monroe by 1. Then we both went 2-6 in conference. At least y'all won a few big games that year though.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4928 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:51 pm to
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Half of Aggy's SWC titles were pre-WWII.

Let's see... Since 1945 in the SWC:

Arkansas had 12 SWC football titles. A&M had 9, and two of those happened after Arkansas left the conference.

So, after WWII, competiting for conference titles, Arkansas had 12 and A&M had 7. You owned us in the 1912-1920 era, though. I will give you that.

Aggies always like to say 41-24 is because "we were a little ole bitty ole all male country school!" early on.


Good job making up arbitrary dates to go by. Not sure what WWII has to do with college football, other than making this argument look favorable to Arky. If you really want arbitrary dates, most will start in 1936 (the AP era) or if you wanna go more modern than that, 1973 (scholarship limitations/more integration).

Post 1936: A&M 13 Arky 13
Post 1973: A&M 7 Arky 4

Let's be honest, would Arky really have done anything to stop A&M from winning the SWC in '92 or '93? You're kidding yourself if you think that's the case.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4928 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Won the SEC West 3 times


Let's be honest here, you won the West twice and got in by default once due to Bama being ineligible.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 3:54 pm to
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And Arky lost to Kentucky in 2008...and your point of losing to Arky State is what?


One team is in the SEC and the other is in the Sunbelt.

If it happens for the Aggies then that is swell, it's about fricking time. Every single time this comes up we get the same ole laundry list. All-male college up to a point, had some great runs during prohibition, won a title during WW2, bad coaches hear and there, screwed by Fran, etc. We can all come with excuses about why we are not better than we are. A&M is not the only program to have bad coaches or face some sort of problem. Yes, they out recruit us, and they always have. They have always struggled against us, so we expect that to continue.
This post was edited on 7/27/12 at 3:55 pm
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:02 pm to
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Yes, they out recruit us, and they always have. They have always struggled against us, so we expect that to continue.


exactly, it's not like all of a sudden they're now in texas- they always have been- woopidy doo.

and i've yet to figure why we would even have a reason to have an inferiority complex to a & m in the first place?
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:02 pm to
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On what do you base this belief? Our history against the Aggies going back many years shows otherwise. Do you feel that just because they move to the SEC that they will suddenly rise to a level that they could not in the SWC of Big 12?


Ummmm Ags have more SWC championships than Arkansas.

Furthermore, beating A&M in the 50s is nothing like beating A&M today. All male military school, 5-10k students etc. You're comparing apples to oranges by citing all-time records. You essentially beat the Citadel in the 50s...congrats.

A&M has a much brighter future than Arkansas, of that I have no doubt. If you are being objective and had to bet on one of the two I'm sure you'd come to the same conclusion.

Just look at it this way: LSU is already ready to cancel the last game of the year vs you to play us. What does that tell you? And I'm sure that's the SEC's wish as well. A&M is more valuable to the SEC than Arkansas. Sorry.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:04 pm to
^^^Aggies aren't the ones on here bragging...Arky has that all covered...fact is you hadn't done shite most of your existence...you beat us 3 times in a row...whippeeeeee. And we sent your arse packing to the sec with consecutive losses...
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40397 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:04 pm to
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They've had better recruiting classes than us for a while. hasnt meant anything. If they have slightly better recruiting classes now but they are in a tougher conference wouldnt that just mean theyd stay the same?


Didn't A&M have some disappointing coaching hires the past 15 years or so? That just may have had something to do with their poor performances during that stretch. Time will tell if they have a winning coaching staff now. At least they have a staff, and that staff is recruiting well for them.

Arkansas recruiting is worst in the SEC and they have no idea on their coaching staff, and won't for another 4 months. Just a hunch, but that may cause some problems down the road.
This post was edited on 7/27/12 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:11 pm to
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Didn't A&M have some disappointing coaching hires the past 15 years or so? That just may have had something to do with their poor performances during that stretch.


Let's see, we had Jack Crowe, a washed up Ford, and Houston Nutt. Nothing disappointing about that crew
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7649 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Didn't A&M have some disappointing coaching hires the past 15 years or so?


Yes, and like i said, we had houston nutt for 10 years...
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40397 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:16 pm to
Didn't Nutt take Arkansas to their first SECCG?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 4:18 pm to
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They have always struggled against us, so we expect that to continue.

And there is absolutely ZERO logic supporting that expectation. The last 10 years in the SWC, the record was 5-5.

Is this confidence and expectation born of your recent success against A&M? You think Arkie dominated the last two games? If we play last year's game 10 times what would the record be? Further, how does ANY of that change the future?
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