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re: Arkansas fans, thread from Ole Miss Spirit you might appreciate.

Posted on 10/11/11 at 4:51 am to
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 4:51 am to
Nutt is a good coach. Ole Miss is just a coach killer job.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55021 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:00 am to
Arkansas fans act like Nutt was a complete failure while he was their coach. Go study his record a little more closely.

You look good under petrino, but you still haven't won and darn meaningful game under Petrino. Unless beating LSU counts...I am talking about Big Bowl victories and true Championships.

so until then, I would remain humble and stop bashing a coach who was loyal to your program.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19128 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:07 am to
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Arkansas fans act like Nutt was a complete failure while he was their coach.

No. His greatest success was in '98-'99, and '06-'07, but mostly by pissing off the majority of an entire fan base.
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who was loyal to your program

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 8:09 am
Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
333 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:10 am to
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I think your math may be off....but I get your point.




About 14 years or so as I recall.

Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson were on the '64 NC team, I know Nutt played on the '78 team that beat BlowU in the Orange Bowl under Lou (the lisp) Holz. Nutt got into the game in mop up duty late.


My bad guys, had a momentary brain fart. It was Hatfield that palyed on the 64 team. Sorry biut that.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55021 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:13 am to
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about.


I admit that I am one of the 10's of Millions of college football fans that don't follow Arkansas football. You are like a Chihuahua nipping at the ankles

so maybe a 10 year run at Arkansas isn't necessarily loyal, perhaps persistent would be a better characterization
Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
333 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:17 am to
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Arkansas fans act like Nutt was a complete failure while he was their coach. Go study his record a little more closely.

You look good under petrino, but you still haven't won and darn meaningful game under Petrino. Unless beating LSU counts...I am talking about Big Bowl victories and true Championships.

so until then, I would remain humble and stop bashing a coach who was loyal to your program.







You damned idiot, he wasn't disliked for his record. He was disliked for the fact that he was destroying our program. How in the frick is that being loyal to it. You need to do some research before you start talking shite.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19128 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:19 am to
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so maybe a 10 year run at Arkansas isn't necessarily loyal, perhaps persistent would be a better characterization

A complete euphemism, not a true assessment.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 8:24 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55021 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:24 am to
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he wasn't disliked for his record. He was disliked for the fact that he was destroying our program


This makes zero sense on the surface of the statement.

A little background:

When I was 8 years old, I grew up with a neighborhood boy that used to tell me how great Arkansas was and how bad LSU sucked.. that was back in the 70's.. He ran around saying "LSUPew!" I always resented that taunting. LOL!

Now that LSU has actually been a dominate program for 10 years, I come on here and have to endure a ton of Arkansas fans talking junk about how great they are, and how badly you are going to beat LSU because Petrino is a better coach than Miles etc etc..

So, it tends to bring out the worst in me... My apologies. Yes, you have had some nice victories over LSU's during their golden era.
Posted by TampaRebel
Florida
Member since Sep 2011
54 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:30 am to
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Nutt is a good coach. Ole Miss is just a coach killer job.


This is why we must get the old frickers out of the Lyceum. They micro manage the frick out of every coach. Tommy T would have never left if not for the old geezers.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19128 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:33 am to
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He ran around saying "LSUPew!" I always resented that taunting. LOL!

You let the kid win. Some fans from ALL fan bases do that, including LSU fans. You do have insight re: your reaction.
The only reactions you can control are your own.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 8:40 am
Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
333 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:34 am to
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This makes zero sense on the surface of the statement


To understand the problems with Nutt, you need to look at his final year at Arkansas. It would take to long to tell the full story here. If you want to know just do some research on him, Gus Malzin, and Mitch Mustain. Things got pretty dirty towards the end. It was never about his win loss numbers. It was to much personal baggage.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:48 am to
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Nutt
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loyal to your program.


Must have been the reason Nutt slinked off in the middle of the night to OSU and had his daddy call Holtz to tell him.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69338 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:02 am to
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This is why we must get the old frickers out of the Lyceum. They micro manage the frick out of every coach. Tommy T would have never left if not for the old geezers.




f'ing this
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:17 am to
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a coach who was loyal to your program


Really? Seriously? Played 2 years at Arkansas and then transferred to Oklahoma State.

In his time coaching at Arkansas, he had Jimmy Sexton float his name to Nebraska, Miami and LSU in hopes of holding up our administration for more money. Worked at least once with the Nebraska thing.

If a person can't tell that the program is on more stable footing today than at any time in Nutt's tenure here, then they just don't understand college football at all. Nutt's successes were all - 100% - as a result of a freakish home-grown talent going to Arkansas and carrying him. Our best years under Nutt were when Matt Jones was free-lancing at QB and when McFadden was running the Wildcat hybrid offense originally conceptualized, not by Danny Nutt, but by people many generations ago when they called it the single wing. And even then...it was Malzahn who resurrected it at Arkansas, not Danny.

One of the main problems with the Nutt tenure at Arkansas was his inability to sustain success by keeping the talent pipeline filled (through either poor recruiting classes or by woeful retention), along with his inability to develop talent once he got it on campus. The result of these shortcomings was a roller coaster ride of some mindblowingly bad teams, followed by some surprisingly good teams. Each week was an adventure. In-game adjustments were nonexistent. Arkansas circa 2007 = Ole Miss 2010 & 2011.

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I am talking about Big Bowl victories and true Championships.


What did Nutt win along these lines at Arkansas? Two West co-championships (one of which because bama was ineligible for the title). One outright. No SEC Championships. He won a Cotton Bowl over texas and a Weedwacker Bowl over Misery. And bowl losses to powerhouses UNLV and Minnesota, along with losses to Wisconsin, Michigan, and Oklahoma. Hardly legend-making stuff. All the while, he was saying and doing stuff to piss off the fan base and cause lots and lots of dissent and division.

These are but just a few of the reasons the Nutt tenure will not be reflected upon favorably by the Arkansas fan base. Nor will his tenure at Ole Miss when it's all said and done.
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1442 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:18 am to
When Nutt was here (I live in NWA) I thought he was a reasonably good game-day coach but a major jerk-off as a human being. (Danny always seemed like a decent guy, however.) When I heard he was going to Ole Miss, I was dumbfounded. I couldn't figure why in the hell Nutt would want to go to OM, and I couldn't understand why in the hell OM would want to hire him. Obviously not a match made in heaven, as it turned out.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:25 am to
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I thought he was a reasonably good game-day coach


I don't think he has the mental heft to make in-game adjustments. If the game plan was solid and his guys are able to whip your guys, then he is great at sticking with what brung him. If the day calls for major adjustments, he just can't do it. Now, I will give him credit for being a great pre-game speech maker. He could get those kids fired up. He could motivate. And since pre-game speeches obviously happen on game day, then I suppose that's a game-day coaching strength of his.

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a major jerk-off as a human being


In my few dealings with Nutt I always wanted to go to the nearest restroom and wash my hands real well. The guy was just slimy. He was always very nice, but not the least bit genuine.

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I couldn't understand why in the hell OM would want to hire him.


Two words: Jimmy Sexton. That cat can spin a couple of west co-championships and one outright one, along with 7 out of 10 years going to a bowl, into something that sounded REAL GOOD to the OM powers-that-be.
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 9:28 am
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
4372 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:29 am to
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If you want to know just do some research on him, Gus Malzin, and Mitch Mustain. Things got pretty dirty towards the end. It was never about his win loss numbers. It was to much personal baggage.


Mustain and the Springdale Mommies and Daddies had a lot to do with this as well. Blame can be placed on everyone. Pee-Wee football stuff.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 9:31 am to
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Mustain and the Springdale Mommies and Daddies had a lot to do with this as well. Blame can be placed on everyone. Pee-Wee football stuff.


You have a very good handle on the situation.

What seemed like a clusterfrick for us at the time probably was the best for all involved. Short term pain for long term gain. That was a dark and difficult period for our program, but it no doubt hastened Nutt's departure, and that's good for the program.
Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
333 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:01 am to
Yeah, but the kid didn't deserve the treatment he got. Coaches should look out for their players, not frick them over. Don't forget the email incident. Even Nutt's wife got involved in that fiasco.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:59 pm to
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Posted by ronnielee54
Yeah, but the kid didn't deserve the treatment he got. Coaches should look out for their players, not frick them over. Don't forget the email incident. Even Nutt's wife got involved in that fiasco.




The Ole Miss fans have little knowledge of what you are talking about.
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