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re: Are the “powers in charge” trying to kill college football?

Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2207 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:51 pm to
I fear the “powers” have already ruined college football. They will not be able to put the genie back in the bottle. Certain programs, like Texas, have historically shown for decades they will ruin any conference, any semblance, of fair competition for money. The NCAA is totally at fault. They sold these kids NIL for years. That should have never been allowed. But now NIL is signing up high school kids for millions. Texas has a $20,000,000, Lamborghini driving backfield, with millions already committed to high school kids. Their backfield is priced higher than most NFL teams. Alabama and Nick Saban bitch bitterly about any change or parity in college football that threatens them. A poor school like LSU commits 100s of millions for about 85 so called student athletes. The overwhelming majority of whom will never graduate or play professionally. Basically what is being set up is another professional football league, highly paid, that is using, for the most part, taxpayer funded university facilities and resources. The “powers” are using the excitement, aura, game day experience...to promote a new professional league. The solution is like the NFL. A draft and a salary cap. All 5 & 4 stars should be subject to a draft if they wish to participate in NIL money. They have to play for the team that drafted them. A salary cap puts the teams on level playing field. Those players not opting for NIL money are free to play for any program for scholarships and a monthly stipend as they used to. Playing for pride, or a program has already been wiped out. The players and teams want to play for money, establish the sane procedure as the NFL.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57815 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:54 pm to
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Why? There are hundreds of fcs, D2 and d3 programs that don't make squat
It takes a special talent to ask a question then immediately answer your own question without realizing it.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9935 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:57 pm to
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It takes a special talent to ask a question then immediately answer your own question without realizing it.


It takes an even more "special talent" to not read the post I was responding to.

These programs still exist, despite not making money.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9935 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:01 pm to
Maybe your heart will break if Western Kentucky moves down to FCS but it's the way it should be in the first place.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57815 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:03 pm to
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These programs still exist, despite not making money.
And he said look for them to start closing down in the future.

Reading is hard.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9935 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:01 pm to
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And he said look for them to start closing down in the future.

Reading is hard.


Not in the post I responded to / quoted. It's not that hard to follow.

He said colleges would start cutting programs. That's it. And yet, we evidence of hundreds of schools whose athletics don't make money and they haven't "cut their program."
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57815 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:12 pm to
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He said colleges would start cutting programs.
Right. That implies action in the future. Is this your first day speaking English?

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And yet, we evidence of hundreds of schools whose athletics don't make money and they haven't "cut their program."

I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse. He's making a prediction on the future. Just because programs getting cut isn't a widespread problem right now doesn't dispute his point. As college football is run more and more like a business, the odds of smaller schools falling even further behind financially and competitively is extremely high, which would lead to loss of interest and even less money than they're already bringing in, which would kill programs.

It's really not a difficult line of logic to follow.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:13 pm to
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Change is hard
Especially when the changes are bad.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22322 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:16 pm to
The 30-50 programs that are actually willing to spend what it takes to compete regularly, who get decent fan support, should split off front the rest.

Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18217 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Sucks to no longer be excited.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9935 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Just because programs getting cut isn't a widespread problem right now doesn't dispute his point.


This is moronic. We have hundreds of examples of the hypothetical situation and yet the programs still exist.

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and competitively is extremely high, which would lead to loss of interest and even less money than they're already bringing in, which would kill programs.


And yet it's precisely what many schools have today and they keep their programs.

It's an easily dismissible premise
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
470 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:09 pm to
The college football playoff is going to break away from the NCAA very soon
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:10 pm to
The SEC will be fine no matter what, I don't understand all the hand wringing.
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
470 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:10 pm to
Yep, back when a dad could afford to take his two kids to the games and hear the player prayer over the loudspeaker.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36352 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:12 pm to
No, they're not trying to kill it. They think they can make even more money by price gouging us and no one is complaining so they shall continue this mess. We all still go to games, watch on TV, etc.
Posted by LetItBe
Columbia, MO
Member since Apr 2022
322 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Money is doing what it does It spoils everything.


I'd just tweak that and say it's greed that spoils everything.
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
1886 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Texas has a $20,000,000, Lamborghini driving backfield, with millions already committed to high school kids.


And yet, they still go 5-7.

They’ve had a top-10 class every year for past 10 years and they’ve gone .500
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9935 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:41 pm to
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The SEC will be fine no matter what, I don't understand all the hand wringing.



That's where this is going.

Major college football will be programs that have support and generate major revenue.

The other programs will bounce down to fcs
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:44 pm to
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That's where this is going.

Major college football will be programs that have support and generate major revenue.

The other programs will bounce down to fcs

Imagine a scenario for FSU with UF in the SEC and Miami in the B1G.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2207 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 5:45 pm to
Biko is right..that’s what will kill college football as much as anything...the extremely high cost of taking a family to a game.
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