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re: Are LSU fans finally ready to admit Grinding Brian ain’t the one?

Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:53 pm to
Explain Kelly losing to USC, Texas A&M, Alabama and Florida this season.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Explain Kelly losing to USC, Texas A&M, Alabama and Florida this season.


He hasn't fixed the defense yet after flubbing his initial hires.

That set the program back two years.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:08 pm to
He lost to two first year head coaches and a third who was on the way out the door. At this point, Florida is feeling better about their coaching situation than is LSU.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:12 pm to
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He lost to two first year head coaches and a third who was on the way out the door. At this point, Florida is feeling better about their coaching situation than is LSU.


Okay?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14834 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:21 pm to
A top tier coach with 20+ years of experience should not lose any of those games in year three at a borderline blue blood. Losing four is unconsciousable..

Your excuse for Kelly at Notre Dame was that he lost because he didn’t have as much talent or he faced a better quarterback. That isn’t the case in a number of his loses as LSU’s head coach. Instead he finds a way to lose even though he has more talent.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:24 pm to
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Your excuse for Kelly at Notre Dame was that he lost because he didn’t have as much talent or he faced a better quarterback. That isn’t the case in a number of his loses as LSU’s head coach. Instead he finds a way to lose even though he has more talent.
What about a coach who took over a premier program with a loaded roster and lost 4 games. 2 of which included Vandy and the worst OU team we've ever seen?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:24 pm to
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A top tier coach with 20+ years of experience should not lose any of those games in year three at a borderline blue blood. Losing four is unconsciousable..



Kelly isn't a "top tier" coach, he's just good.

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Your excuse for Kelly at Notre Dame was that he lost because he didn’t have as much talent or he faced a better quarterback. That isn’t the case in a number of his loses as LSU’s head coach. Instead he finds a way to lose even though he has more talent.


It happens, look at your season for instance.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:31 pm to
The jury is still out on BK. He will need to do great things this season for me not to put him in the "ain't the one?" bucket.

BTW, I am not happy with his performance(s) so far.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:35 pm to
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The jury is still out on BK. He will need to do great things this season for me not to put him in the "ain't the one?" bucket.

BTW, I am not happy with his performance(s) so far.


I think this offseason is the inflection point of his tenure, the team isn't talented enough at certain positions and hasn't developed the talent they do have adequately.

They addressed some of that with the staff hires last offseason, they addressed more of it with roster acquisitions this offseason.

Now we see what happens.

If LSU doesn't at least win a playoff game this season, then it's going to spiral downhill IMO.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:47 pm to
That offense didn't look worth a damn vs. a very mediocre Bama defense.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
1642 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
Can you shut up, you are talking too much? We know we are going to be a force, let them dumb asses from Klan Land think will are down bad. They are still celebrating that October win. Unserious bunch of Aggs!
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 3:54 pm to
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If LSU doesn't at least win a playoff game this season, then it's going to spiral downhill IMO.

I don't think LSU will make the playoffs this coming season. BK is still the LSU HC.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:06 pm to
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I don't think LSU will make the playoffs this coming season. BK is still the LSU HC.

But you didn't think BK would beat Mizzou either
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10579 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:06 pm to
OK, lets all pretend it was a serious question and not just a troll. The Coach O reference says otherwise, but again, we can all pretend for a bit.

The answer is nahhh, not yet anyway. 2024 was a shitty letdown due to expectations after his first two years, but he finished strong after losing to two shite teams on the road and Alabama at home, revived a gut punch near signing day and brought home a solid recruiting class and he killed it in the portal. If this sounds familiar, its the same shite a lot of Aggies were saying about Jimbo after his THIRD four loss seasons in four years. The difference being, this was Kelly's first 4 loss season. Regardless, he is on a short leash and hopefully last year was the outlier, and he takes us to the playoffs in 2025

But yeah, if for some reason, LSU allows him to have four more of these seasons before firing him, I will agree with you that we are just as stupid as you guys when it comes to myopically hoping we hired a good coach while the program becomes a laughing stock.

Well, at least we wont be giving him an extension in the midst of this potential free fall into mediocrity, but even in a pretend world, who would be ignorant enough to do THAT?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:19 pm to
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But you didn't think BK would beat Mizzou either

Never said that. I expected a loss back then.
You look at talents gap. Mizzou is catching up. Still got ways to go. The team is much better and shall be better than last year's team. Ihave said it will take time to build the football program due to not having top talents because NIL and the new transfer portal wasn't available to compete for top talents.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10579 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:20 pm to
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You better hope Nuss is Heisman caliber, bc that’s what’s it taken for y’all to win that game at Tiger Stadium


Well, your Heisman winner never beat us in BR. Or at Kyle.

As for us needing Heisman caliber QB's to beat A&M, I had no Idea Zach Mettenberger, Anthony Jennings, Brandon Harris, and Danny Etling were of that caliber.

EDIT
How could I forget Max Johnson. They all run together at this point. In fact, in the last 30 years, every single LSU QB that played against A&M beat you at least once. The only exception being TJ Finley (who was replaced in the 2020 game by Max Johnson who beat you the following season). Thirty years of "Heisman caliber" quarterbacks. What an amazing run.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:22 pm to
Serious question - why exactly do you think BK is a bad coach?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10579 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Never said that. I expected a loss back then.


Back then was just a season ago. You had a 3-2 team with the leagues and possibly P5's worst defense who had just given 55 points coming to your place, and you were undefeated and had your best team in at least 15 years, and you expected to lose?

This is just sad.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61045 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:42 pm to
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Back then was just a season ago. You had a 3-2 team with the leagues and possibly P5's worst defense who had just given 55 points coming to your place, and you were undefeated and had your best team in at least 15 years, and you expected to lose?

This is just sad.


He made a thread about Pete Jenkins being hired and said he hoped this didn't change Mizzou's chance to win or something along those lines.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4627 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:04 pm to
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ND had the easiest road to the championship game


They can’t help where they were selected. They faced an 11-1 Indiana team, the SEC Champ, and the Big Ten Runner up — and they beat all three.

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got destroyed by tOSU. Don't let the final score fool you, it was over at half time.


It was a one score game with 5 minutes left. What you’re saying, actually, is asinine. Getting “destroyed” is LSU - Alabama 1/9/12 - meaning, crossing the 50 once the entire game. Being down 1 score with 5 minutes left doesn’t equate to being “destroyed.”

Lastly, I said, and I reiterate, Kelly could not have taken that ND team and: (1) won all three (IU, UGA, and PSU); and (2) keep the OSU game close.

I’d call you a derogatory slur or insult, but “That LSU Guy” sufficiently demonstrates your stupidity.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 6:05 pm
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