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re: Antoine Mason officially transferring to Auburn (basketball)
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:17 am to gatorhata9
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:17 am to gatorhata9
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Its strange that it is only the pigs talking shite and no one else.
I'm trying.
UGA fan talkin shite about bball? May want to keep workin.
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:18 am to parkjas2001
Good pick up
The more teams that are solid in this league, the more respect we get.
The more teams that are solid in this league, the more respect we get.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:19 am to joeyb147
I hope this dude is as frustrating for you as Harris is for me. 
This thread just reminds me how he did one thing good then 7 bad and/or just stupid.
This thread just reminds me how he did one thing good then 7 bad and/or just stupid.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:21 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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I was one of his few defenders and he did a far better job with Anderson's players in 2012 than Anderson ever did that's for sure, but on the road in SEC play last few years Haith was abysmal. Pertinent to this thread, Haith had exactly two and only two road wins in SEC play last year: Arky and Aubie. Nowhere else. Hmmm.
Mike left him a talented, but young team, Haith profited from their maturing while adding pieces to compliment the core. Still couldn't get anything done in the tourney.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:21 am to parkjas2001
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UGA fan talkin shite about bball?
They are better than Auburn.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:24 am to DaleDenton
IS that why AU beat UGA this past year?
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:25 am to Stonehog
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I already congratulated Auburn on the pickup, but getting a senior one-and-done isn't going to make much of a difference in the long run. Pearl and staff also need guys that will stick around for 3 or so years and add some stability.
Strange to say in an era where college basketball careers are progressively shorter. Auburn needs to win soon. Every additional win adds credibility to what Pearl is doing, and enhances who he can bring in.
I would love for Pearl to bring in stud recruits who will stay here for 3-4 years, but those kids aren't coming to Auburn right now. I think Pearl will probably try for a mix of solid players who will stick for a while, and players who can make an immediate impact and raise our profile.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:28 am to Hogwall Jackson
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He will be well prepared for the SEC. LINK
Iona and Manhattan probably would have finished in the top half of the SEC last year, don't act like this is the ACC or some shite.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:28 am to Pettifogger
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I would love for Pearl to bring in stud recruits who will stay here for 3-4 years, but those kids aren't coming to Auburn right now. I think Pearl will probably try for a mix of solid players who will stick for a while, and players who can make an immediate impact and raise our profile.
Haith tried that a Mizzou, there was no reason for Haith to do that at Mizzou because Mizzou has enough talent surrounding them where a program can be built/sustained instead of trying to put a good roster together from year to year.
Pearl is going to have a lot of ground to try to make up on the recruiting trail when his show cause expires.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:28 am to parkjas2001
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IS that why AU beat UGA this past year?
We also beat Kentucky year before last, doesn't mean we're better than they are.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:28 am to DaleDenton
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Mike left him a talented, but young team,
7 scholarship players, 5 of whom were seniors, was a young team?
Da frick?
I know you are not a Mizzou fan so you wouldn't have reason to follow this closely so I give you a pass, but the chemistry of the team fell way the frick apart in Anderson's last year here, we skidded out on a bad losing streak, Kim English was going to transfer if Anderson came back and Mike Dixon was unhappy as well. Haith did a great job of getting that group to play organized structured offense and not gamble too much on defense (ring a bell for your current situation down there?) and a 30-5 season speaks for itself.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:29 am to blzr
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Iona and Manhattan probably would have finished in the top half of the SEC last year, don't act like this is the ACC or some shite.
No.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:34 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Mike Dixon was unhappy as well.
Yeah, that is a guy you want representing your school.
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Haith did a great job of getting that group to play organized structured offense and not gamble too much on defense (ring a bell for your current situation down there?)
The motion offense is an organized structured offense, which is the main offense Mike runs.
Set plays are not the only way to run an organized structured offense.
The defense doesn't gamble too much, if anything they have been too tentative the past 3 years.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:34 am to gatorhata9
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We also beat Kentucky year before last, doesn't mean we're better than they are.
UGA's program is ahead of AU at the moment, but both are bad programs traditionally.
I don't really see how the argument for either program as superior is very good.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:37 am to DaleDenton
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Haith tried that a Mizzou, there was no reason for Haith to do that at Mizzou because Mizzou has enough talent surrounding them where a program can be built/sustained instead of trying to put a good roster together from year to year.
Except that Mike Anderson had not done that hence Haith having to go the transfer route to have any chance of an experienced roster at all. CMA had screwed us so bad that there were only 3 scholarship players returning for Haith's second year. Anderson had let Otto Porter, a Missouri kid with two Mizzou alum parents who had us as his leader for a long time and had never so much as even been on an airplane before his senior year of high school, go off to Georgetown without even trying b/c Anderson knew at that point he was gonna take the job with you guys.
I think Haith probably rode the transfer train a little too long bleeding into this past 2014 season and that was a big part of what turned the fanbase against him, but initially at least I do understand why he did it for 2013 b/c Anderson had left a barren wasteland of a roster.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:38 am
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:37 am to Pettifogger
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UGA's program is ahead of AU at the moment, but both are bad programs traditionally.
I don't really see how the argument for either program as superior is very good.
UGA would have made the tourney last year if they had not completely shite the bed in the non-con schedule.
The league as a whole would have twice as many bids for the tourney if teams didn't lose at home to mid/low majors, that is what drags the perception of the conference down, although the talent level and coaching in the league is slowly improving.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:43 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Except that Mike Anderson had not done that hence Haith having to go the transfer route to have any chance of an experienced roster at all. CMA had screwed us so bad that there were only 3 scholarship players returning for Haith's second year. Anderson had let Otto Porter, a Missouri kid with two Mizzou alum parents who had us as his leader for a long time and had never so much as even been on an airplane before his senior year of high school, go off to Georgetown without even trying b/c Anderson knew at that point he was gonna take the job with you guys.
I think Haith probably rode the transfer train a little too long bleeding into this past 2014 season and that was a big part of what turned the fanbase against him, but initially at least I do understand why he did it for 2013 b/c Anderson had left a barren wasteland of a roster.
What is funny is Mike was being blasted in the media for having to pull an offer to a kid because he didn't have an open scholly on the team during the off-season before his final year at Mizzou.
So Mizzou went from a full roster to a depleted roster because of Haith's decision to take transfers instead of recruit, that was Haith's decision to handle the roster in that matter not Mike's.
We do not blame Heath for leaving Pelphrey with 7 seniors or Pelphrey's decision to sign a kid from Georgia (the country) during the summer instead of taking a JUCO or blame Heath for Pel signing freshmen players who were either kicked off the team or transferred out after one year to total 33 signees in a 4 year period.
We do not blame Heath for this, we place the blame at the feet of the one responsible, Pelphrey, which is why you will not get any sympathy from us for Mike not leaving behind a perfect roster and situation for the next HC.
Funny how Mike inherited a worst situation than Haith, roster and program wise from Pelphrey, yet in the same amount of time has been able to add stability to the roster for the first time in 7 years and improve the talent level on the roster while having to suffer APR sanctions due to the previous two HCs.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:44 am
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:45 am to Pettifogger
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Strange to say in an era where college basketball careers are progressively shorter.
Mason is already a senior.
It's one thing to bring in a talented freshman who could go pro, but then you also have the possibility of that player sticking around for another year. Just look at all the Kentucky freshmen who decided to stay.
You don't get that option with Mason. He has one year to play one. And saying he helps you win now remains to be seen. He might help you win a few more games, but it's hard to imagine that you make the tournament now just because you added Antoine Mason.
Once again, congrats on the pickup.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:53 am to Stonehog
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You don't get that option with Mason. He has one year to play one. And saying he helps you win now remains to be seen. He might help you win a few more games, but it's hard to imagine that you make the tournament now just because you added Antoine Mason.
Maybe not, but it's not hard to imagine Auburn being more competitive immediately with the combination of a little more talent and much better coaching.
I just don't think basketball is as conducive to slow rebuilding most of the time. I don't know that this will solve any problem for Auburn, but I certainly think getting any additional talent is very good news for a program like ours.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:54 am to DaleDenton
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What is funny is Mike was being blasted in the media for having to pull an offer to a kid because he didn't have an open scholly on the team during the off-season before his final year at Mizzou.
So Mizzou went from a full roster to a depleted roster because of Haith's decision to take transfers instead of recruit, that was Haith's decision to handle the roster in that matter not Mike's.
This really makes no sense. When Haith took the job in 2012, Anderson left him with a roster that would have had only 3 scholarship players coming back for the 2013 season. Haith proceeded to add several talented transfers in Alex Oriahki, Jabari Brown, Earnest Ross etc, and after going 30-5 and making the NCAA tournament with Anderson's senior class in 2012, Haith took his group of transfers and made the NCAA tournament AGAIN in 2013. Haith did not deplete the roster, he took a vacant roster and turned it into an NCAA tournament team in one year's worth of recruiting.
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Funny how Mike inherited a worst situation than Haith, roster and program wise from Pelphrey, yet in the same amount of time has been able to add stability to the roster for the first time in 7 years and improve the talent level on the roster while having to suffer APR sanctions due to the previous two HCs.
Funnier still that Haith went to the NCAA tournament twice in that time span at Mizzou while Anderson and Arkansas have continued to wallow in NIT-or-worse mediocrity every single year. Funnier still how Haith won 75% of his games against Anderson in that span with the lone loss coming by 2 points or so on a controverial home cookin' call at Arky. There's nothing objectively or subjectively that can rate Anderson's performance at Arky as better in any way than Haith's performance at Mizzou, just nothing. Haith made NCAA tournaments and raised conference trophies. Anderson's done none of that at Arky in the same time period.
You defend CMA staunchly, which is brave and loyal, and I'm not sure if that makes you unusual for Arky fans or if your fanbase as a whole is just back in offseason rose colored glasses mode.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:56 am
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