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re: Anti ACC Rant - The Capitol One Cup - Men's Sports
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:30 pm to KillianRussell
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:30 pm to KillianRussell
Here's all anyone needs to know about Division 1 lacrosse. If it's not Lacrosse, I don't know what other sport they could use.
Seems like people should petition their universities and ask them to start a Lacrosse team if they have an issue. Then all of us with bad lacrosse teams will be like all of the schools with good lacrosse teams and bad football programs.
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:32 pm to Bellabama
He is a LSU brainiac that wants gator huntin' an SEC sport ?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:43 pm to KillianRussell
Apparently, if you aren't in division 1 football, your school isn't really entitled to athletic accolades that celebrate diversity in college sports. 
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:49 pm to Bellabama
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Then all of us with bad lacrosse teams will be like all of the schools with good lacrosse teams and bad football programs.
You could say the reverse for ACC and Big East football, or is that what you were implying?
Here is the current Top 20 according to the NCAA :
1 Syracuse
2 Virginia
3 Cornell
4 Johns Hopkins
5 Notre Dame
6 Denver
7 Duke
8 Maryland
9 Bucknell
10 North Carolina
11 Villanova
12 Hofstra
13 Stony Brook
14 Colgate
15 Penn
16 Loyola Maryland
17 Delaware
18 Harvard
19 Massachusetts
20 Georgetown
Lordy, Stanford sponsors sports in everything, and they are not on the list, nor is a single BXII, B1G, PAC, or SEC school! The ACC and Big East each have 4 teams and the other 12 are a hodge podge of small schools in small conferences. Again, I have no problem handing out 20 points for the sport, but 60!
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:54 pm to Cheese Grits
That's what I am saying. The point is that Lacrosse is a huge deal in a lot of areas of the country. You can't just take it away because it hasn't caught on in one place. Football may be played in more places and be universally accepted, but it doesn't mean that alone provides a fair competitive advantage. We can't punish them for not playing more of the traditional 3, and they can't penalize us for not picking up lacrosse.
ETA: Here's another link to the NCAA website where you can run a report of all of the schools that participate in a sport by division.
Kind of interesting...
ETA: Here's another link to the NCAA website where you can run a report of all of the schools that participate in a sport by division.
Kind of interesting...
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 4/15/12 at 5:59 pm to Cheese Grits
Penn State won it's second NCAA wrestling title in a row, should they discontinue that sport too?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:05 pm to Cheese Grits
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Lordy, Stanford sponsors sports in everything, and they are not on the list, nor is a single BXII, B1G, PAC, or SEC school! The ACC and Big East each have 4 teams and the other 12 are a hodge podge of small schools in small conferences. Again, I have no problem handing out 20 points for the sport, but 60!
If you want a cup just for the schools that participate in the traditional conferences, with the big 3 sports, it would be a different sort of cup. But it's not.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:10 pm to Cheese Grits
I just don't get it, what's up with hatin' on the success of others ?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:12 pm to KillianRussell
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Penn State won it's second NCAA wrestling title in a row, should they discontinue that sport too?
That's ok because it's only 20 points. One of my best friends is from Connecticut and I was trying to tell her about the Alabama LSU BCS game. I had explain it to her in terms of Men's Lacrosse rivalries.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:20 pm to KillianRussell
Towson is IAA football and playing LSU this fall, but they have a Division 1 Lacrosse team and LSU doesn't have a Lacrosse team. They are on equal ground!
They are on equal ground!
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:24 pm to Bellabama
Towson is from Baltimore the epicenter of Lacrose
John Hopkins also in Baltimore used to be the powerhouse in lacrosse
Howie Long's kid Chris now with the Ram's played lacrosse at UVA
John Hopkins also in Baltimore used to be the powerhouse in lacrosse
Howie Long's kid Chris now with the Ram's played lacrosse at UVA
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:26 pm to Bellabama
The more I think about it the OP has a point how dare Utah,Colorado, New Mexico and Vermont use snow ski as a sport
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:35 pm to KillianRussell
Don't even get me started on Water Polo. WTF is up with California? Liberals. 
20 points for that shite?
20 points for that shite?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 6:38 pm to KillianRussell
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:02 pm to KillianRussell
KillianRussell, not ranting about having the sport, but about the points awarded for that specific sport. Soccer gets 60 points, but looking at the NCAA rankings you see the ACC + Big East + B1G + PAC all in the Top 20. No BXII or SEC teams there, but I see conferences across the entire country represented and the Gamecocks are in at #25 as a CUSA team. The other 60 point sport is Track and Field, where again a broad mix of the country is represented. The Top 25 has 5 of the Big 6 conferences (only the Big east does not have a Top 25 team) and it has schools from all across the country. When using the NCAA thing in the post above to run a report for Lacrosse, it was around 90% of schools in ONLY the northeast.
I am perfectly okay with Soccer and Track & Field at 60, and would even argue Wrestling over Lacrosse just based on how broad that sport is. Again, no SEC schools, but the ACC, Big East, B1G, BXII, and PAC are all represented in NCAA wrestling. Football, Basketball, Baseball, Track & Field, Soccer all represent the county as a whole, but Lacrosse just represents the northeast. If they want the full 60 they need to be nationwide! :)
Last year the Gators won the cup by having a broad base, with high point counts in sports played across the country. If the Tar Heels won it this year with Soccer and Baseball then more power to them. If they win it with Soccer and Lacrosse tho, then that seems a bit more hollow. LSU of course can fix all this if they do well in Baseball and Track & Field, and hold the SEC banner for this years Cup
but they still have an uphill climb.
I am perfectly okay with Soccer and Track & Field at 60, and would even argue Wrestling over Lacrosse just based on how broad that sport is. Again, no SEC schools, but the ACC, Big East, B1G, BXII, and PAC are all represented in NCAA wrestling. Football, Basketball, Baseball, Track & Field, Soccer all represent the county as a whole, but Lacrosse just represents the northeast. If they want the full 60 they need to be nationwide! :)
Last year the Gators won the cup by having a broad base, with high point counts in sports played across the country. If the Tar Heels won it this year with Soccer and Baseball then more power to them. If they win it with Soccer and Lacrosse tho, then that seems a bit more hollow. LSU of course can fix all this if they do well in Baseball and Track & Field, and hold the SEC banner for this years Cup
but they still have an uphill climb.Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:14 pm to Cheese Grits
If you like it I love it
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:52 pm to KillianRussell
Agree with Cheese Grits. And I'm not hating on lax at all. It's a fine sport but I just feel it's too regionalized to be one of the few men's sports that awards 60 points to the champion. Seems like a 20 point sport all the way to me.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:12 pm to Cheese Grits
When a small school like johns Hopkins has been a perennial leader for decades, and most people couldn't even tell johns Hopkins is a university, let alone know where it is, it is obvious that lacrosse isn't that significant of a sport nationwide.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 9:37 am to sarc
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It's a fine sport but I just feel it's too regionalized to be one of the few men's sports that awards 60 points to the champion.
bump for sarc because I agree 100% with what you say, and the ACC penis wrinkles are just using this lame excuse to look less flaccid on the national scene.
Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:21 am to Cheese Grits
A&M brings a strong Quiddich team to compete with LSU's for national dominance 
How many points does Quiddich get? 80?
How many points does Quiddich get? 80?
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