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re: Andrew Harrison racial slur discussion *UPDATE*
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:52 pm to NorthGAVol
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:52 pm to NorthGAVol
If he was being racist he would have used "honky" or "cracker" or"peckerwood" or something to that extent. The fact is that I'm sure Harrison uses that term to refer to his teammates, friends, etc. By referring to Kaminsky in that way, it was a term of equality if not a sign of respect. By referring to him as "****" he was putting him on a level with people he does respect, so I don't know how anyone can compare that to ou frat boy.
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:53 pm to MontyFranklyn
There is a double standard when it comes to this. You're a smart guy and should be able to understand this.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:53 pm to Mizzou4ever
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Lemme guess, you think only the majority can be oppressive, bigoted, and racist because they are the majority? The minority can never be because of the fact they are a minority?
No, but off-hand I can't recall too many situations where a majority was oppressed.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:54 pm to MontyFranklyn
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You are the one offering equality as if it is yours to give. If you don't want to treat blacks with respect than that is on you, but to offer "equality" by removing what you feel to be is a double standard makes you come off as pretentious and racist.
There it is. Disagree with someone? Call them racist. Lazy and unintellectual.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:55 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Someone asked earlier if a white guy is offended by its use and I can say regardless of race or age I am highly offended and do not associate with anyone who uses it even in a casual context!
That's fine, but I'm going to continue to use context as an indicator of when someone is being racist and not simply because a word is used.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:55 pm to Quicksilver
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No, but off-hand I can't recall too many situations where a majority was oppressed.
Look no further than the Gay/Lesbian agenda today.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:56 pm to Quicksilver
Bottom line is that word is derived from hatred towards black people and it has only one definition
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:56 pm to Masterag
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If he was being racist he would have used "honky" or "cracker" or"peckerwood" or something to that extent. The fact is that I'm sure Harrison uses that term to refer to his teammates, friends, etc. By referring to Kaminsky in that way, it was a term of equality if not a sign of respect. By referring to him as "****" he was putting him on a level with people he does respect, so I don't know how anyone can compare that to ou frat boy.
In a modern context I agree wholeheartedly....but it still does not condone the completely inappropriate use of such a vile word.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:56 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Listen bro, you can spout off all this equality bull shite, but you just come off as a racist
How so?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:56 pm to ABearsFanNMS
quote:You don't truly understand the context. It black culture it is used as a common noun to identify a male, just like bitch or hoe is used as a noun to identify a female. For instance, Snoop Dogg's song "Next Episode". He says and "niggaz and hoes know how I feel." Its crazy, but its true. That is just how it is used in that context. He wasn't referring to Frank in a negative manner by using the word, he was using it as to say "dude"
How can you honestly sit here and defend the use of that word in any context is completely mind blowing. It is a completely vile inappropriate word. Someone asked earlier if a white guy is offended by its use and I can say regardless of race or age I am highly offended and do not associate with anyone who uses it even in a casual context!
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:57 pm to Mizzou4ever
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ook no further than the Gay/Lesbian agenda today.
How are straight people being oppressed? I do not feel the slightest bit oppressed but maybe I am not aware of how I am being oppressed.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:57 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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How can you honestly sit here and defend the use of that word in any context is completely mind blowing. It is a completely vile inappropriate word. Someone asked earlier if a white guy is offended by its use and I can say regardless of race or age I am highly offended and do not associate with anyone who uses it even in a casual context!
The word ending in "er" and the word ending with "a" are two different words and mean two different things to black people. Whether you or anyone else wants to acknowledge this doesn't make it any less true. It is what it is.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:58 pm to Patton
quote:Because he is basically saying that he won't view blacks as equals until the double standard of that word is removed. So basically blacks aren't equal in his eyes. That is how I take it.
How so?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:58 pm to MontyFranklyn
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You are the one offering equality as if it is yours to give.
Can you point me to where I did that?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:58 pm to Quicksilver
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How are straight people being oppressed? I do not feel the slightest bit oppressed but maybe I am not aware of how I am being oppressed.
Christians are being bullied and oppressed for their beliefs. I offer you the state of Indiana as a prime and recent example.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:59 pm to Glorious
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Bottom line is that word is derived from hatred towards black people and it has only one definition
Sometimes language evolves and words gain other definitions. Again, I'll continue to use context rather than get offended by a word.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:00 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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In a modern context I agree wholeheartedly....but it still does not condone the completely inappropriate use of such a vile word.
Why would it be said in 2015 by a 19 year old kid from houston in any other context?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:01 pm to MontyFranklyn
Hmm. Didn't seem that way to me but to each their own.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:01 pm to MontyFranklyn
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quote: How so? Because he is basically saying that he won't view blacks as equals until the double standard of that word is removed. So basically blacks aren't equal in his eyes. That is how I take it.
That's not what I said. You're suffering the same malady as Quick.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:01 pm to Quicksilver
quote:yep
Again, I'll continue to use context rather than get offended by a word.
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