re: Alabama talent this year is huge...

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I was just simply using the same logic that thunderbird applied to T Love, what's the problem when I do it.

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The "problem" is when you say that a receiver who HAS made an impact at LSU hasn't made an impact.

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I know, its different. (snicker)

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As if you wouldn't be defending Toliver if he'd had similar success with the Tide

Don't recall exactly, but he had at least 3 or 4 VERY impressive outings during the waning half of the season.

I'm not saying he's Randy Moss (though his potential has been compared to Moss), but to say he hasn't contributed is asinine.

Of course, considering the source, I don't know why I'm surprised.

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He will be a true junior next year, and has done plenty to contribute to the LSU defense.

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Maybe he has, I watched a lot of LSU games this year and I wasn't overly impressed, how many interceptions did he have? I thought he was supposed to have a monster year.

He's a good player, but not exactly All SEC caliber yet in my opinion.


The point is, Tbird is saying that if T Love isn't starting on our Line next year that proves some sort of Rivals bias, and am just curious as if the standard applies universally?

Al Woods was a 5*, how many games has he started?
How good are his stats?

He will probably be really good, but to base this Rivals conspiracy on whether T Love is a starter next year as a Redshirt freshman after being hurt all year is inaccurate.

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He was the guy catching balls on Bama's vaunted D in the 4th quarter.........did you watch that game?

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Yeah I did, it ended 27-21. Was that his best game of the year?


Once again, what is the standard to know if players deserve 5*'s.

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The point is, Tbird is saying that if T Love isn't starting on our Line next year that proves some sort of Rivals bias, and am just curious as if the standard applies universally?

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Not what I said at all.

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I wasn't arguing for T-Bird, so stop bringing that shite up. If you want to argue with him, address it to him

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I did, but you jumped in anyway. You replied to a post of mine that was addressed to Tbird originally, so one would think it safe to assume you were arguing for him.

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As if a receiver was supposed to prevent his QB from throwing 3 interceptions.

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They can sure help my catching the passes like the one that hit Byrd in the hands though.

Once I again, I'm not saying he was over-rated or under-rated, I actually think he will end up being pretty good, I just asked if the Bama game was his "impact" game and what were his stats?

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Actually, the first one hit Byrd in the chest and he couldn't hang on to it.

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Yeah...in triple coverage.

Tell me again how that's Terrance Toliver's fault?

A couple of things...I've seen several reports and articles over the past few years that list the most talent rich states, and they all list the top 6 in this order with a little variation in the top 3:
Florida
Texas
California
Georgia
Louisiana
Alabama

So it really shouldn't be suprising to see AL pump out some good talent considering it's the 6th most talent rich state in the nation. The myth that AL doesn't have much talent is just that...a myth.

Secondly, all this garbage about Fluker being rated higher because of Katrina is a joke. Fluker is a AL kid....he played in Mobile before Katrina and only left for one year because of the damage. He returned home to AL after a short time in MS...but he's always been an AL kid. So let's get the facts straight.

Finally, if Rivals is so biased in favor of AL....why do other sites rank Bama's classes almost the same most years? Last year Scout had Bama's class as #1 as well. There are least two years in the since 2002 where Rivals ranked Bama's class LOWER than Scout and other services. Was Scout biased in favor of Bama in those years? Bottom line is that Saban came in and landed a solid class in 2007 with one month on the job. His first full year on the job he goes out and lands the #1 class in the country. Now he's putting together what will be a consensus top 5 class. So much for the myth that Saban wouldn't be able to bring in elite classes at Bama like he did at LSU. He's arguably bringing in better classes at Bama than he did at LSU. It will be interesting after NSD to average his first three classes at LSU and his first 3 classes at Bama and see where he did better.

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funny how according to Rivals AL has been loaded the last 2 yrs.

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I'm getting real tired of this argument. Is Alabama not suppose to have this much talent for a few years? I know that we haven't had this much talent earlier in the decade but I can't argue with the most of the rankings of AL players. DJ Fluker (not the overall 3rd best player but definitely a 5 star IMO), Dre Kirkpatrick, Tana Patrick, and Kendall Kelly are all great players and deserve their rankings. There are plenty of others that are 4 star recruits that are good as well and are rated about the same according to Rivals and Scout.

A good bit of the highly rated players have some impressive offer lists and that's what counts the most. I look at what other coaches offer the recruits, not their star rankings.

BTW, it's not how high the players are rated but what the current coaching staff does with those players.

I remember last year there was an interview with Bama commit Barrett Jones, a 6'5 OT from Memphis, where he said a rivals guy called him and asked him if Rivals could list him as a center so he could be No. 1 in the position rankings and have a higher Rivals Rating. He has played tackle his whole life - he's freaking 6'5. Check his Rivals bio.



Rivals and Bammer love each other.