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re: Alabama QB Mac Jones has orchestrated arguably the best passing attack in CFB history
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:36 pm to topcat88
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:36 pm to topcat88
Not our fault that the B10 played by their own ever-changing rules. The REC is powerful, but there are some thing that is out of their purview.
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:37 pm to Ingeniero
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No of course not, only stats that make Mac Jones look good are accurate. All the other ones just show that this is an asterisk season.
To review, Kentucky can't actually be a top passing defense because the statistics aren't accurate.
Mac Jones is the best QB of all time because the statistics are accurate.
The PFF, which was what the article in the OP is, is a grading system that they do personally. They review every play for a player, and grade them.
In general, they will come out with stats you never even knew existed. Like they have that stat quoted on the % of balls that were uncatchable. That's the kind of stat you can only get by reviewing every single play, and then putting it into context(aka not counting balls thrown out of bounds).
Those are quality stats. And btw, PFF stats were quoted many times by LSU fans when it was Burrow last year. And you didn't see Alabama fans trying to quote stupid bullshite non-opponent adjusted stats in response.
Because only butthurt people who don't want to admit the truth need to do that.
SP+, FEI and F+(SP+ and FEI combined) are the kind of opponent adjusted stats people who have a clue about stats use. And they sure as hell aren't going to say stupid shite like Kentucky has the best passing defense in the SEC at #48.
They magically have Georgia at #6 overall defense.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:39 pm to 3down10
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And you didn't see Alabama fans trying to quote stupid bull shite non-opponent adjusted stats in response
Lol, clearly you just see what you want to see
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They magically have Georgia at #6 overall defense
You think the #6 overall defense in a number year would put up that performance against cincinatti?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:40 pm to Sid E Walker
A lot of things are out of your control. That’s what we are trying to tell you. Maybe you could be in talks to have the greatest team ever but you can’t because of covid circumstances. This was not a full season
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:41 pm to Terrific Tales
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You think the #6 overall defense in a number year would put up that performance against cincinatti?
Give up 300 total yards, 4.8 YPP and 21 points with 2-3 of their starters not playing, including their middle linebacker?
I mean, yea, I'd say they would.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:42 pm to TideSaint
Big difference in the two. Burrow threw to WRs in a crowd. Jones throws to wide open WRs or five yard slants that turn into 60 yard TDs.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:43 pm to Terrific Tales
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You think the #6 overall defense in a number year would put up that performance against cincinatti?
305 total yards and only 21 points?
Uh, yeah.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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Jones throws to wide open WRs
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He's actually thrown into a tight window on 15.2% of his passes this season, a rate that is about four percentage points higher than Tagovailoa's last season and is nearly double that of Justin Fields (8.3%) this year. Oh, and Jones has also been the most accurate passer on tight-window throws this season — by a large margin.
It even reads like it was specifically written to laugh at your incorrect assessment
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five yard slants that turn into 60 yard TDs
Yea, Mac Jones can't throw the deep ball
You got your Tua talking points messed up old guy. Recalibrate and try again.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I get it, you are one of the majority of people here who just want to cherry pick stats (mostly others work) that back your opinion.
So now you sound like you are totally on board with the conversation that was happening.
I do like using the graphic. It shows the best season of all time. Triggers the frick outta you boys.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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Jones throws to wide open WRs or five yard slants that turn into 60 yard TDs.
Read the OP again. This is specifically addressed in the article.
FYI, you're wrong.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:44 pm to dstone12
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Triggers the frick outta you boys.
Oh look, there it is again
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:45 pm to topcat88
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This was not a full season
We played two more SEC teams during the regular season than we have ever before. Of course it was a full season.
Maybe you guys put more stock in playing the Sam Houston States and Portland States of the the world than you should.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:45 pm to dstone12
Uhhhh
Side Taint
Holler back when you get done with that game.
Have you had some good suggestions via text yet?
Side Taint
Holler back when you get done with that game.
Have you had some good suggestions via text yet?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
What Heisman moments has Jones had? Burrow was spectacular when the pocket collapsed. Never really seen Jones work any magic like that. Not saying Jones is bad. Just saying Burrow was way better and about 32 GMs will agree.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:46 pm to Sid E Walker
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We played two more SEC teams during the regular season than we have ever before. Of course it was a full season.
Against less sec players.
You’ll never understand that
Or you’ll never want to admit it.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Why is missing starters only an excuse when Bama fans say it matters?
Anyway I feel like a #6 overall in a defense in a normal year probably only gives up 7-14 points against a team like cincinatti
Out of curiosity, where is Cincinatti ranked offensively in that system?
Anyway I feel like a #6 overall in a defense in a normal year probably only gives up 7-14 points against a team like cincinatti
Out of curiosity, where is Cincinatti ranked offensively in that system?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:47 pm to Irons Puppet
Sport you have zero credibility ....how about Pearl and the boyz?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:48 pm to topcat88
I don't think Mac is a better QB or better QB prospect than Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow is awesome.
Mac Jones is a helluva college QB who regularly gets slandered for things that stats clearly prove are 100% false, idiotic assertions (see Iron Puppets).
Mac Jones is a helluva college QB who regularly gets slandered for things that stats clearly prove are 100% false, idiotic assertions (see Iron Puppets).
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:48 pm to dstone12
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Against less sec players.
Again, we can’t help it if your team of pussies opted out. Sounds like your team has the problem, not Bama’s.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:49 pm to BlackCloud
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Of course they are raw, and when I made the thread on New Years Eve I knew inbred idiots like you would lose your mind over it.
If being the guy who says stupid shite for attention is what you need to get by, then I'm glad you're getting it.
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I really believe you are just acting stupid. I hope so anyway.
I will ask you, all stats aside, are these SEC pass defenses not the worst you have ever seen across the board? YES or NO?
No. Passing offenses are at an all time high because of rules changes and it started a few years ago, not just this year.
Regardless, has nothing to do with the shite stats you post.
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I have already said (it seems like a hundred times) that the teams in the top 50 don't mean they are better or more talented.
Those raw numbers against conference only shows that it's hard to argue that these SEC pass defenses aren't the worst we have ever seen.
When they says things like there are "lies damn lies and statistics", they are referring to this kind of crap.
Those stats do not prove shite and if you believe otherwise you're an idiot.
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If you look at it yourself and play around with the stats you will find that the SEC always has 5 or more teams in the top 50 in passing defense if you do conference only.
Again, those stats don't mean anything, and as such it doesn't matter where other teams "usually" fall, or what you can do with "playing around with them".
If you want to use stats that have meaning and accuracy, then use stats that are opponent adjusted.
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