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re: Alabama Football Marching Monday for Racial Injustice

Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Crimsonians
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:52 am to
Considering in most of these cases, the police have done nothing wrong. Would love to hear what you think they have done wrong.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:58 am to
I'm telling you guys now. And I want you all to understand this and keep this in mind...

When you view other American citizens as an enemy because they dont share your world view and fight them tooth and nail on every issue, and when you set a precedent of treatment in anger and hunger for power, you won't always win... and the pain of your losses will be nobody's fault but your own.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:00 am to
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The facts are Rittenhouse was chased both times and defended himself both times,first by this pedo



Who was a pedophile?
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:06 am to
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Let the facts come out dip shite.


The facts are already out. Rittenhouse went to the protest, armed illegally, looking to "defend property" that didn't belong to him.

That's not self defense. That's vigilantism, and it's against the law.

But let's talk about that. Why are we somehow supposedly devoid of those facts (we aren't) but most of the posters here have already laundry listed a bunch of crimes Blake committed?

We hear all the time about false claims of rape. How do you know that was ever true?
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2124 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:15 am to
The whole thing is stupid. I'm about ready to boycott college athletics too.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 10:36 am to
Just another reason to dislike the university of Alabama. I believe some students also took a knee during the anthem. They’re becoming worse than Mizzou.
Posted by Canyon16
Muscle Shoals
Member since Nov 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:06 am to
Policemen are in a dangerous profession.
All they ask, no matter your color, is simply comply to their command, whether its freeze, stop, hands up etc.
The morons who wish to ignore will more than likely face tough consequences.
Many of those who don't comply are either wanted or fear of violating their parole.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:19 am to

First:

they are making a hero out of a rapist who was placed on a restraining order to protect his victim.

Do you grasp that? If so, let's move on.


He then violated the restraining order because sexually assaulting her WAS NOT ENOUGH!.

Are you following that?

The VICTIM called the police. The police tried to remove the CRIMINAL and the CRIMINAL refused. He then fought the cops because evidently it is his DAMN RIGHT to sexually assault somebody and then terrorize them AFTERWARD!

Are you following that? Do you need me to back to up and re-word that in a manner to which you can understand?

HE then FOUGHT the cops. They tased him.. NOT ONCE.... but TWICE.

It had NO EFFECT.

HE then went for the weapon in his car. They tried to stop him and he refused. They then shot him.


Screw you or any other fan of my university for making that POS a hero and a living martyr!


Since you keep ignoring it. Nothing else matters at Bama right now. This march has zero to do with ANYTHING else.

Deal with the facts.

Posted by Canyon16
Muscle Shoals
Member since Nov 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:28 am to
And the Chicago Bears disowned Brian Urlacher for stating these facts.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:29 am to
Jjdoc, let me help you out buddy. And this may be a hard concept to grasp...

The protests are not about one incident. It's the pattern. And all the reasoning you have to discredit the protests does not matter.

This is yet another black person shot by police. And its on camera. Again.

Are you aware of how afraid of police black people are? Even innocent black people? Do you know what it does to black people to see a black person shot by a white officer? Understand that this is not an indictment of white people. This is rooted in trauma and a pursuit of fairness in policing. Research the history of the origins of policing in America and it's relation to black people, and understand that there are plenty of black people still alive that experienced the traumatic 1950s and 60s.

If you can’t understand that this is about a pattern with elements of historical problems, negative individual encounters, and other Americans attempting to invalidate these concerns, the only person that can help you understand is the Good Lord himself.

I pray that God can change your heart and mind to see this from outside your perspective one day.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Jjdoc, let me help you out buddy. And this may be a hard concept to grasp...

The protests are not about one incident. It's the pattern. And all the reasoning you have to discredit the protests does not matter.



When the protest is about the shooting of THIS POS... as in stated reason why, you are damn straight that's the reason.

There is no damn pattern.

As a Black man, you offend me with the lies.

quote:

Are you aware of how afraid of police black people are? Even innocent black people? Do you know what it does to black people to see a black person shot by a white officer? Understand that this is not an indictment of white people. This is rooted in trauma and a pursuit of fairness in policing. Research the history of the origins of policing in America and it's relation to black people, and understand that there are plenty of black people still alive that experienced the traumatic 1950s and 60s.


As a black man....... Shut up. Stop telling me how I should feel to push a narrative.




Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:48 am to
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This is yet another black person shot by police.
quote:

Are you aware of how afraid of police black people are? Even innocent black people? Do you know what it does to black people to see a black person shot by a white officer?


Is there any evidence at all to suggest the outcomes of any of these incidents were related to race?

When will someone in the black community take a leadership role to promote good citizenship?

What you people are trying to convince us of is that if these individuals hadn’t been black - they wouldn’t have been harmed, and that is an outright lie. The harm began when they broke the law and/or resisted arrest. Nobody wants to talk about that. We want to pretend those two things - good citizenship and fair policing, are mutually exclusive.

They aren’t. Stop breaking the fricking law, and your interactions with police would be reduced in number and magnitude. Peacefully comply when you do interact with them, and the statistics being marched about would practically vanish.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:49 am to
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As a black man....... Shut up. Stop telling me how I should feel to push a narrative.


Im black too. Cut the bullshite and ask all these black athletes why they feel how they feel.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:51 am to
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Cut the bullshite and ask all these black athletes why they feel how they feel.


Because it’s easier to believe you’re a victim than that you have control over your own outcomes and are responsible for your actions.

Don’t break the law. Don’t hang out with people who break the law. Peacefully comply.

The above formula would vaporize police violence against blacks or anyone else, for that matter.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:54 am to
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Is there any evidence at all to suggest the outcomes of any of these incidents were related to race?



Disproportionately by race, yes.

LINK /

The rest of your strawman arguments and red herrings are pure fantasy. Most black people are law abiding citizens because if they weren't, it wouldn't just be inner cities being ravaged by crime. Black people live everywhere now.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 11:56 am to
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Peacefully comply


Like Philando Castille right?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Disproportionately by race, yes.


Blacks commit a disproportionately high number of violent crimes, which directly affects the quantity and types of interactions they have with law inforfement. Why is that? When does the black community begin to take responsibility for their own actions?

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:06 pm to
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Like Philando Castille right?


Philando’s case, in my opinion, is truly tragic. Ironically, his received the least amount of public outcry, which I find troubling.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Blacks commit a disproportionately high number of violent crimes, which directly affects the quantity and types of interactions they have with law inforfement. Why is that? When does the black community begin to take responsibility for their own actions?


You proved my point. Disproportionate crime doesn't cancel out the 14th Amendment. You can't blame disproportionate crime on disproportionate killings by police. If we're going to hold police to the same standards as street criminals, we've lost the spirit of the constitution. And thats dangerous.

If that's the case, what's to stop police from killing white men because they own more guns per capita than any other group?

Or because they commit more crimes than women?

Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Philando’s case, in my opinion, is truly tragic. Ironically, his received the least amount of public outcry, which I find troubling.



There was outcry but it wasn't played up in the media. It also wasn't a target of NRA scorn, despite Castille being a law abiding gun owner. Why is that?
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