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re: Ags - how has the local everyday dynamic changed in Texas with Big XII folks
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:10 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:10 pm to WestCoastAg
WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:55 pm to texashorn
Hey at least his deflector shield is cooler than your time machine.


Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:54 pm to WestCoastAg
The OP's question is really more psychological in its meaning. The Aggie hivemind is an amazing thing to witness. Living in Houston, it's easy observe on a daily basis, especially if you ever drive by an Applebee's parking lot.
As a Texas grad, I can tell you that most of the Longhorns I know find the Aggie contingent more entertaining than anything else. There isn't a lot of hate from our side, it's more of a chuckling-and-shaking-your-head kind of vibe, like how you'd react at a family reunion dinner table if your dipshit cousin started talking about how he thinks Obama is actually Osama Bin Laden in hiding.
For anyone wanting further insight into how my state views A&M, check out:
The Top 10 Reasons Why Texas A&M Is The Worst
T-minus 10 seconds until WestCoastAg chimes in with obsession noted, a tried-and-true defense tactic whenever anyone calls them on their shite. Keep in mind they LOVE any attention, good or bad. That's why JFF is their messiah. It's Kardashian football.
As a Texas grad, I can tell you that most of the Longhorns I know find the Aggie contingent more entertaining than anything else. There isn't a lot of hate from our side, it's more of a chuckling-and-shaking-your-head kind of vibe, like how you'd react at a family reunion dinner table if your dipshit cousin started talking about how he thinks Obama is actually Osama Bin Laden in hiding.
For anyone wanting further insight into how my state views A&M, check out:
The Top 10 Reasons Why Texas A&M Is The Worst
T-minus 10 seconds until WestCoastAg chimes in with obsession noted, a tried-and-true defense tactic whenever anyone calls them on their shite. Keep in mind they LOVE any attention, good or bad. That's why JFF is their messiah. It's Kardashian football.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:11 pm to bigbopper
Wait, so you link your own fricking website?
That's tool cubed right there.
That's tool cubed right there.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:17 pm to texashorn
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The conference television deal gave the teams that played on TV the most, the most money.
And A&M voted for that. (You see, they were for it before they were against it.)
But they kept sucking and not getting selected for TV, and they didn't make as much money.
Coincidentally, the whole conference realignment mess began in 2010. Why is that an interesting coincidence?
In the 2009 season, A&M was the least televised team in college football with only 6 televised games in the regular season. Out of those 6, 2 were on Fox College Sports-Central. Also, the Texas A&M/Texas Tech game was not televised live in any way, shape, or form.
To further illustrate the magnitude of this farce, per the bylaws of the Big 12's television deal with ABC, EACH SCHOOL WAS TO BE BROADCAST AT LEAST ONCE ON ABC. That didn't happen.
The conference, doing the bidding of DeLoss Dodds, VIOLATED ITS OWN TELEVISION DEAL.
That would be like LSU during the 90's not being broadcast on CBS even once during a particular season.
THIS is the height of t-sip arrogance right here: The fact that this dipshit celebrates the travesty outlined here instead of thinking, "you know, if this keeps up, there might be dissention and we might have a problem".
The '09 season is the reason a lot of us hate Bill Byrne with a passion. Before the 2010 season, when asked why the Aggies were televised so few times the previous season, his response was effectively that unless they sold out every game, he didn't want the games televised if he could help it. Basically he failed the basic concepts of supply and demand: How can you build demand outside of a core group if you don't make it available to others?
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:18 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
Why are you even here, puta?

Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:20 pm to texashorn
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They went two percent over budget (I think it was a 3 million deficit with a 160 million budget).
But when you have $40 million in cash as reserves, you can handle it.
They didn't go in the red the next year.
Apparently, aggy didn't have ANY kind of reserve and had to beg the old CIA dick who led y'all for a loan. The chica president who succeeded him let the cat out of the bag about the loan, and the rednecks ran her off.
I think it's funny how UT/A&M fans seem to know every detail about bullshite like revenue and cash reserves and balance sheets. Football in Texas has been reduced to arguing over accounting.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:21 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Not trying to sell you penis pills, pal. Just easier to link to something already written re: the OP's topic than typing it all out again on the can. There's just so much to say about you awesome guys!
If it makes you feel better I can just link Texags and they can see for themselves what 100% of our state already knows about your fan base.
If it makes you feel better I can just link Texags and they can see for themselves what 100% of our state already knows about your fan base.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:22 pm to bigbopper
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The Aggie hivemind is an amazing thing to witness.



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As a Texas grad, I can tell you that most of the Longhorns I know find the Aggie contingent more entertaining than anything else. There isn't a lot of hate from our side
Yup, that's why y'all rooted SO HARD against your true hated rival when OU/A&M last met up in the cotton bowl.
Oh wait....
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Keep in mind they LOVE any attention, good or bad.
A texas fan on an SEC site posted this


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That's why JFF is their messiah.
Yeah, nobody gave a frick about this guy wrecking shite in the SB:
Take your clown self back to the shag or whatever fricking hole out of which you groveled and quit obsessing over Aggy, you milksop.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:23 pm to texashorn
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the old CIA dick
Of course, for graduates who love to rant and rave about their university president being the one who "killed Bin Laden", you sure do show a lot of disrespect to the man who authorized ADM McRaven to initiate that operation, the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:23 pm to thefloydian
Also agree about all this revenue BS- the money argument is loser talk and has no place here. Sound like Cowboy fans.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:24 pm to bigbopper
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Just easier to link to something already written
That's like citing a book Kanye West wrote. It may be "written", but it's still a complete pile of shite.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:26 pm to bigbopper
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probably the only college town in America that still votes red
Wow, the author of that article must have never been to the south.

I went to Auburn, and it was 4 years in a Hitler Youth camp.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:27 pm to bigbopper
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Just easier to link to something already written re: the OP's topic than typing it all out again on the can.
OP didn't ask for diddly squat from texasfan.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Kanye West wrote a book? Sounds like Sumlin might finally have something to put on his players' summer required reading list in between DJed practices and Swag 101 lessons.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:28 pm to bigbopper
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Kanye West wrote a book? Sounds like Sumlin might finally have something to put on his players' summer required reading list in between DJed practices and Swag 101 lessons.

Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:29 pm to bigbopper
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Sounds like Sumlin might finally have something to put on his players' summer required reading list in between DJed practices and Swag 101 lessons.
You wish strong could speak intelligently enough to articulate a book that he's read.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:30 pm to thefloydian
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Wow, the author of that article must have never been to the south.
Not an article. Dipshit linked his own blog post written right after a group who brazenly and disgustingly attempted to use one of their members, who was an amputee (double or quadruple, I forgot which) as a shield from criticism for a cease and desist notice they received from the Athletic Department.
Even the individual in question acknowledged the legitimacy of the C&D notice and complemented the A&M representatives who contacted him on the way they handled it.
Of course that doesn't stop those who hang on mouth breather Keith Olberdouche's every word (the one who attempted to enflame a non-story)
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:34 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Oh, and "steve", here's a FAR more professional and accurate take on what happened from a far more credible source:
Kristi Dosh - Dated July 30, 2014
Here's the key portion:
Just like that, Ms. Dosh annihilates the entire premise of your feeble blog 14 days after it was posted, despite Randolph Duke's Quixote-esque attempts to invalidate it.
Kristi Dosh - Dated July 30, 2014
Here's the key portion:
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Why the complete 180 from Sonntag and his group? Because Texas A&M was always wrongly labeled the bully in this story, and here are four reasons why:
1. Texas A&M didn't address its correspondence directly to the double amputee cancer survivor.
Charles "Chuckie" Sonntag, the aforementioned individual, was not the registered owner of 12ManThunder.com. Texas A&M's initial cease and desist letters were not addressed to him for this reason, although he was copied on correspondence after his name was discovered on one of the social media accounts connected with the group. Until Sonntag chose to speak to the media in early July, Texas A&M knew nothing about Sonntag other than his name and his involvement with 12thManThunder.com.
"We wrote to them several times and tried to work with them," said Bill Raman, outside legal counsel to Texas A&M. "The first time we learned he was a cancer survivor was when it hit the news."
Texas A&M has largely decided to stay quiet on this issue, recognizing the no win situation in which they found themselves after the news broke.
2. Double amputee cancer survivors aren't above the law.
Can Sonntag steal someone's identity and rack up debt in their name and then get away with it because he's a double amputee who has survived cancer? Of course not.
Then why can he steal a university's identity?
Texas A&M's use of the 12th Man dates back to 1922. You might think the term is widely used everywhere and Texas A&M has no claim to it, but it didn't exist until Texas A&M. You can read the full story behind the 12th Man here.
If you've never been to College Station, you might not get it. This fall will be my fourth year in a row attending a game in College Station, and I can tell you the 12th Man is Texas A&M's identity. Better yet, I'll let an Aggie tell you....
"It's a strong attractor for prospective students who are looking for a place they can identify with as they go to school," said Hinckley.
"12thMan is more than an athletic identity, it's the core DNA of who Teaxs A&M is: leadership, selfless service, loyalty, respect, integrity, excellence. Those are our core values, and the 12thMan embodies all of that."
12th Man isn't just a slogan or a logo Texas A&M slaps on t-shirts to make a buck; it's the university's identity, and long ago the university took the necessary legal steps to protect that identity.
It's perfectly understandable that Sonntag and his group might not have known 12th Man was a trademark. That's why organizations like Texas A&M send letters before they pursue more aggressive option like a law suit. In my podcast on this issue I described how I sent these letters when I worked at the WTA Tour. Every organization with trademarks does (or should) do this. Once you receive the letter and are aware the mark is protected, there is no excuse for continuing to knowingly break the law.
3. Texas A&M has a legal duty to "police" their trademark.
The value in a 12th Man t-shirt isn't in the t-shirt itself, it's in the mark on the shirt a fan wants to wear to demonstrate pride. There is value in being the only producer of merchandise with a given trademark, like 12th Man. Both the Seahawks and Bills pay Texas A&M for the right to use 12th Man in their stadiums, but neither are permitted to use it on merchandise.
Policing your trademark is important, because a trademark can be "genericized," meaning use of the term has become so prevalent for a product or service that it loses federal protection. Aspirin, escalator and kerosene are just a few examples of terms formerly owned by their creators and subsequently lost. Imagine if every escalator company out there had to pay Otis Elevator Company, the original trademark owner, to use the term "escalator" and the value Otis Elevator Company lost when the term became generic and no longer protected by federal law.
I spoke with Collegiate Licensing Company's general counsel, Jim Aronowitz, about the duty to police. He explained trademark owners do not have to enforce against every single use. However, a pattern of non-enforcement can lead to a term becoming generic.
I asked Raman about how they decide when to pursue enforcement against an infringer, and he said there are a number of factors. One of the most important is the potential damage done by a use.
Here's an example (from me, not Raman): if a group was using 12th Man in the name of a one-night event at a small bar that might draw 25 people, the damage is low compared to someone using 12th Man in the name of a website and on social media accounts that can reach very large numbers of people worldwide. That's not to say Texas A&M, or any other trademark holder, won't come after you for using a trademark in the name of a small, one-night event, but hopefully you get the point.
4. 12thManThunder wasn't just a one-time use.
As I explained in my example above, using a trademark in a website name or on a social media account has the potential to reach thousands...millions...tens of millions...hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Do you think Alabama would let you start a website called RollTideFootball.com? Or that McDonald's would look the other way if you started McDonaldsBurgers.com?
Now, odds are you can think of websites who are using trademarks without a license. In the end, there are only so many uses a trademark holder can and will discover. You've likely seen other drivers run red lights. Will that argument get you out of a ticket when you run one? Probably not.
Just like that, Ms. Dosh annihilates the entire premise of your feeble blog 14 days after it was posted, despite Randolph Duke's Quixote-esque attempts to invalidate it.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 11:38 pm
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