re: Adam Schefter reporting Carolina Panthers.....

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My only answer to that is it's not all about arm strength.

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Of course, anyone who has watched Drew Brees or Joe Montana would agree. Field General Winners with weak arms.

But there's a reason Jeff George is taken #1 overall in the draft even if he didn't have the leadership intangibles. (The draft loves arm strength).

There's a reason Ryan Leaf was almost taken 1st overall over Peyton Manning, even though he was immature in his pre-draft interviews (The draft loves arm strength).

There's a reason why J-Roc was taken #1 overall even though he has trouble making a coherent statement (the draft loves arm strength.)


The draft is just different. They worship measurables. College production such as accuracy or inaccuracy can be nullified. A Coach thinks "Give me a big arm, and I'll teach him how to move in the pocket" or "Give me a big arm and I'll surround him with MY wr's and teach him MY plays and how/when to get it there" or "Give me a big arm and even if he isn't smart, I'll make him football smart". No matter how little intangibles a rare arm QB has, measurables always win out in the draft. The only kryptonite to one's draft status is the pre-draft leaked detrimental report.

yeah good points all around. I definitely hear what you're sayin.

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I wouldn't say either of those guys had weak arms. Sure they didn't/don't have cannons, but both could throw it 30-40 yards down the field on target.

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agreed. i think generally what he meant is both only have/had about average nfl arm strength for starting qb's.

AND IF I TOLD Y'ALL I HAD AIDS Y'ALL WOULD PLAY IT

CUZ YOU STUPID MOTHERfrickERS THINK I'M PLAYIN WHEN I SAY IT

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Just checked NFLDraftScout. Those guys are insane.

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insane only b/c they disagree with you.

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Gabbert as the first pick? Really?

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yes really he had a great pro day and his stock is going up.

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They have both Locker and Ponder over Mallett - that's insane.

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no it isn't.

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They botch have Justin Houston - a guy taylormade to be a 3-4 OLB going to a different 4-3 team in either Tampa or New Orleans.

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as a UGA fan I can tell you he is not nearly as good at OLB as DE.

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They also have Washington take Quinn despite the fact that they run a 3-4 and he's a 4-3 guy.

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he can play in a 3-4. Dude is explosive off the edge.

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They also have Baltimore taking a receiver in the first even though that's not their most pressing need for now or in the future.

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they need an explosive WR. They have arguably the slowest group of WR's in the nfl.

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Torrey Smith is not going to be a first rounder pick.

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it's possible.

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He's basically DHB all over again except not as fast or as big, granted he does have better hands - but so does my grandmother.

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runs better routes as well. He is a much better WR.

has xiv pwned y'all yet?

Rotoworld has Newton at Number One. Laughable.

They have Bowers going to Buffalo because (direct quote) Bowers would play end in the Bills' 3-4 defense and focus on rushing the passer. That's stupid. Bowers has played in the 4-3 since he stepped on the field for Bamberg-Earhardt. He's a finesse end. He won't be playing in any 3-4 unless he throws on another 20-30 lbs and that will take away his best attribute: His explosiveness at the snap.

This is copied directly from their recent mock draft and speaks for itself:

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11. Texans: Robert Quinn, linebacker, North Carolina.

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This is equally if not more insane:

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16. Jaguars: Christian Ponder, quarterback, Florida State.

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24. Saints: Justin Houston, defensive end, Georgia.

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So a 3-4 OLB is going to play end in the 4-3 and a 4-3 end is going to play OLB in 3-4 to these guys? Wow.

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25. Seahawks: Colin Kaepernick, quarterback, Nevada.

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Now this is just silly shite.



Also, if a team gets Brandon Harris after the first 30 picks, they will be getting a steal. Dude is going to wind up being the second best corner from this draft.

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So a 3-4 OLB is going to play end in the 4-3 and a 4-3 end is going to play OLB in 3-4 to these guys? Wow.

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I wouldn't say either of those guys had weak arms. Sure they didn't/don't have cannons, but both could throw it 30-40 yards down the field on target.

Ryan Mallett was a relatively accurate quarterback. His time at Michigan really hurt his career completion percentage, but the guy has everything it takes to be a stud in the NFL.

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Yeah, I was going to put "relatively weak arms".

As far as Mallett's accuracy, I see a little of Jim Everett in him (who btw was a 1st rd pick, 3rd overall). While his accuracy is pretty good, there can be some hot/cold streaks mixed in (with a lot of defensible variables why). But Everett was a rhythm passer who needed to pass often and have the offense built around him with him getting 40+ pass attempts. It didn't work with him and Eric Dickerson together (Eric needed 35+ touches, too). Mallett might not mesh well with an Adrian Peterson, but rather with a Pierre Thomas type back.

But whether I'm right or wrong about that, his physical tools are 1st round pick material.