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re: A&M run defense

Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:13 am to
I don't think A&M fans know what the phrase ," RUN DEFENSE" is. They truly believe that offense wins titles and not defense. You'll even see dumb aggies point to one damn team in a decade as a team that was reliant on offense rather then def.
what they dont say is that winning football games can be simplified into doing 3 things well.
1. Win the turnover battle
2. be able to run the ball
3. Be able to stop the run.
1. Auburn was the best SEC team running the ball. 2. Auburn was #1 in the SEC in rushing defense.3. Auburn was one of the best teams in the SEC in turnover margin.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 11:26 am
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:15 am to
All the A&M defense needs to do is be opportunistic and generate turnovers. If A&M wins the turnover margin they have a good chance of winning.

The A&M kicking game is also tremendously better than last year.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:20 am to
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1. Win the turnover battle


Turnovers in last year's game: Bama 3, TAMU 0

Can't do that again.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:24 am to
Yeah, we know what RUN DEFENSE is. In fact, we blew up Bama's run game last year and forced them to throw the ball much more than they wanted to. Spencer Nealy owned the Bama O-Line. That is one of the major reasons we won the game last year. Did you even watch the game?

Of course our RUN D has been lackluster so far this year. So, to mitigate that, we either have to:

1. Improve the RUN D dramatically to limit the other team, or

2. Outscore the opponent

I assume our coaches are focusing on both. But you should et your facts straight before looking so ignorant.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:24 am to
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All the A&M defense needs to do is be opportunistic and generate turnovers. If A&M wins the turnover margin they have a good chance of winning.


But the problem with that is , Bama isn't gonna have to take chances to score. They are gonna have to sling the ball around the field to score against you guys. I admit that if your defense was even average , you would have a real good shot at winning, but it's not average. It's not slightly below average. It's awful. In two weeks A&m have given up 546 yards rushing and 353 passing yards to shite teams.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:31 am to
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E is. In fact, we blew up Bama's run game last year and forced them to throw the ball much more than they wanted to


If you think giving up 4.77 yards per carry as blowing up a run game, then you're proving my point for me. You didn't shut down Bama's running game. You jumped out to a big lead and forced Bama to being one dimensional which allowed your dline to pin their ears back and not worry about the run. 4.77 yard per carry IS NOT blowing up a rushing attack. It's almost a first down every two rushes. Like I said. You limited Bama's ability to call running plays, you didn't shite down their running game.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:32 am to
It has been awful. You are correct. If it continues to be awful in this game, then we are in real trouble.

Dude, you can't just sit there and read stat sheets all day. Watch the game tape. In order to jump out to an early lead, we had to stop Bama. In order to stop Bama, we had to stop the run. That is what we did. C'mon, it's not difficult to understand. You can do this...
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 11:36 am
Posted by AggieJohn06
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2011
444 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:33 am to
Between the returning starters and the what I hope and pray was a vanilla scheme for the first two games, it is damn near impossible to tell exactly how good or bad A&M's defense is. My guess would be that they will be good enough to hold Bama under 30.
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:35 am to
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their defense is Absent & Missing



^^^after he posted this....

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:35 am to
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I assume our coaches are focusing on both. But you should et your facts straight before looking so ignorant.


I bet you regret saying this after I proves you wrong with stats. Also I wasn't talking about Bama and A&M's game. I was talking about A&M posters pointing to 2010 auburn as an example of a team winning a title with a bad defense. I was just naming the 3 steps to winning a football game. No where in my post did I dash Bama ran wild on you. So maybe you should sharpen up your reading comprehension before running your dick sucker about a post.

I still love ya bro. No homo. NTTATWWT
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:38 am to
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It has been awful. You are correct. If it continues to be awful in this game, then we are in real trouble.


Hey with an elite qb like JM, you will always have a punchers chance. I actually got to see the all 22 film from that game and if A&M doesn't shoot itself in the foot numerous times, Bama doesn't even come close to winning. I can't remember exactly but didnt A&M fail to convert a 4&1 or maybe a 3rd and short, and it could've led to A&M going up 27-0. I though I remembered that.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:41 am to
That's fine. I am just pointing out that not all A&M posters ignore the RUN D. Some A&M posters believe that stopping the run is important. Most Aggie fans are informed and understand this.

Especially given our history. A&M has been defense minded and had a strong running game for any of our success in the past 100 years. This wide open spread out offense is all very new.

Damn, I'm just fired up for game week!

This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 11:43 am
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:45 am to
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But using MJ to refute that is a bit of shine pumping don't you think? Maybe you should have used Manute Bol instead.


Its an analogy brah, I went to an extreme to show that a returning starter can make a difference.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:46 am to
Bama averaged 6.6 yards a play in the game last year, to TAMU's 5.4 Bama had 3 turnovers to TAMU's zero last year. That was the difference. That and having their heads up their azzes in the 1st qtr. forced us out of our normal gameplan.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:47 am to
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and read stat sheets all day. Watch the game tape. In order to jump out to an early lead, we had to stop Bama. In order to stop Bama, we had to stop the run. That is what we did. C'mon, it's not difficult to understand. You can do this...


Ha ha. I watched every months of the game and saw the all 22. A&M should've won by more without their self inflicted mistakes, but you didn't stop Bama's running game. You forced them to go away from the run game because of having to try and score quickly rather than ground and pound. Running for 4.77/carry is not shutting a team down. They only had 26 attempts. They usually rushed for 10-20 more times a game, but A&M
Made them have to pass far more than they usually did. AJ usually passed for 13-16 times a game but in the A&M game he 21 times.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:49 am to
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Bama averaged 6.6 yards a play in the game last year, to TAMU's 5.4 Bama had 3 turnovers to TAMU's zero last year. That was the difference. That and having their heads up their azzes in the 1st qtr. forced us out of our normal gameplan.


Barret Jones, Fluker, and Warmack coming back for one more season?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:50 am to
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Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland on 9/12 at 11:41 am to Rickdaddy4188 That's fine. I am just pointing out that not all A&M posters ignore the RUN D. Some A&M posters believe that stopping the run is important. Most Aggie fans are informed and understand this.


Oh I know bro. I was just pointing out to Klarvin idiot thy auburn actually has a great run defense. My point wasnt in reference to the A&M / Bama game. I said early in the thread that had A&M not had self inflicted mistakes , Bama wouldn't have had a chance to win at the end.
Hope y'all play a good , injury free,game and its another classic like last year's game.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 11:51 am
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:50 am to
True. But I wouldn't say Bama had their heads up their asses. Saban doesn't allow that to happen.

I would say that Bama just got jumped, an popped in the mouth. So it took a little while to get their bearings. By the time they settled down it was 20-0.
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
Member since Nov 2011
951 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:52 am to
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Its an analogy brah, I went to an extreme to show that a returning starter can make a difference.


I don't think he was implying that your starters were bad but rather your depth is bad. It's nice to have your key players back but when depth becomes an issue late in the game having them won't matter as much.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:52 am to
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Ha ha. I watched every months of the game and saw the all 22. A&M should've won by more without their self inflicted mistakes, but you didn't stop Bama's running game. You forced them to go away from the run game because of having to try and score quickly rather than ground and pound. Running for 4.77/carry is not shutting a team down. They only had 26 attempts. They usually rushed for 10-20 more times a game, but A&M
Made them have to pass far more than they usually did. AJ usually passed for 13-16 times a game but in the A&M game he 21 times.


Let me tell you why 4.77 yards per carry is a worthless stat overall.

RB 1: 10 Carries for 10 yards each 100 Total yards: 10 YPC
RB 2: 9 carries for 0 Yards, 1 carry for 100 yards: 10 YPC.

I would say that 100 yard gallop was the exception not the rule.
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