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A question for SEC fans regarding ND move to ACC & effect on Mizzou status
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:56 pm
I think there is a general consensus that A&M is here to stay, they are not going anywhere. But regarding Mizzou it seemed in the back of my mind that if B1G ever expanded and was able to get ND, they well also invite Mizzou, who would seriously consider the move. There may be quite a few here who shared this same sentiment. ND is known for keeping their word and I would assume if move to ACC is finalized then it is a done deal. They will never, ever, go to B1G. Considering this it seems to me that Mizzou, like A&M, is here to stay, they will be here 100 years from. My question is do others sense a little more permanence with Mizzou. Or does it not alter your thinking at all, regarding their likelihood to stay.
FWIW, this is in no way a hack, or disrespect, to the Tigers. With the SEC being setup the way it it, with no penalty for leaving (want to go? Bye.), I just saw this as a distinct possibility with Mizzou. If the B!G ever does want to expand now that there is no ND available, I'm not sure what two teams they could possibly get...and improve conference.
FWIW, this is in no way a hack, or disrespect, to the Tigers. With the SEC being setup the way it it, with no penalty for leaving (want to go? Bye.), I just saw this as a distinct possibility with Mizzou. If the B!G ever does want to expand now that there is no ND available, I'm not sure what two teams they could possibly get...and improve conference.
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:59 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
We are stuck with Mizzou forever.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:01 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Notre Dame shouldn't be allowed into a BCS Bowl game until they join an actual conference....IN FOOTBALL.
Mizzou can stay in the SEC. Notre Dame needs to take their arse officially to the ACC if that's where they want to be.
Mizzou can stay in the SEC. Notre Dame needs to take their arse officially to the ACC if that's where they want to be.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:03 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Well, that's one way to express the sentiment of permanence. Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:08 am to RebelNutt48
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Notre Dame shouldn't be allowed into a BCS Bowl game until they join an actual conference....IN FOOTBALL.
That's the national sentiment, I would think. But, putting myself in their shoes. They are getting paid big time TV money, which they do not share (and if I understand it correctly, they will still kepp, after other sports move to ACC). As unfair as it seems, or is, it's the smart thing for ND to do. What they should not have, is an equal chair at the Presidential Council table. This is absurd and completely unfair. They should be removed and if they don't like it, they can suffer the consequence, by rule, of no longer being part of the BCS.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:09 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
:dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: :dope: MIZZOU IS NOT, I repeat, NOT going to the big 10 whether you want us to or not. It was made VERY clear by our admin that this was a 100 year decision.
Please stop bringing up this worn out topic.
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Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:12 am to KCM0Tiger
Could you use more icons and caps for clarification please.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:12 am to RebelNutt48
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Notre Dame shouldn't be allowed into a BCS Bowl game until they join an actual conference....IN FOOTBALL.
I never got the reasoning for this...why not?
Their schedule this year is pretty legit too....OU, Michigan St, Michigan, USC, Stanford and if Miami played like Miami, that schedule would be badass
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 12:16 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:14 am to JordonfortheJ
I don't have a problem with them going to a major bowl, assuming a deserving team. I do have an issue with them having an equal vote with the 11 FBS conferences.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:15 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Could you use more icons and caps for clarification please.
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Yes
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:18 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:22 am to KCM0Tiger
First off, the ACC was stupid to go after, or let in, Notre Dame without football. This shite regarding Notre Dame getting their special privileges just because they're ND is old...Notre Dame is not the same Notre Dame they were 20 - 30 years ago. Proof? Nobody gets overly excited about playing them and beating them. They may have the $$$$$$, but football wise, the prestige has taken a big fall. If they want BCS, then join a real f'n conference.
And Missouri isn't going anywhere.
And Missouri isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:22 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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it seemed in the back of my mind that if B1G ever expanded and was able to get ND,
ND will stay independent or go ACC full-time.
I doubt they would join a conference that blackballed them 100 years ago to keep them out...ergo, why they had to go independent in the first place. Bad blood with the Big10 and they don't have to share a dime.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:26 am to Daigeaux
The biggest problem I have relating to ND and the BCS, in addition to them having an equal vote, is the coming playoff. Being a conference champion, though not mandated, will rightfully be given a large weight. ND gets a free pass on this, which is wrong.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 12:39 am to Zamoro10
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I doubt they would join a conference that blackballed them 100 years ago to keep them out
You are aware the B1G blackballed Nebraska I think 2 or 3 times back around 100 years ago and yet Nebraska still joined in 2010.
As for Notre Dame, they are in the ACC, they are just doing it slowly over the next decade or so to not upset the old dudes who may still leave some big dough.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:12 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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The biggest problem I have relating to ND and the BCS, in addition to them having an equal vote, is the coming playoff. Being a conference champion, though not mandated, will rightfully be given a large weight. ND gets a free pass on this, which is wrong.
They have to win enough games for it to matter first bro. As long as they have USC and OSU and at least one of the michigans on the schedule, that shite aint gonna happen. You aren't going to find all of those teams all down enough at the same time to lose to ND. ND will never compete for anything ever again unless they lower their academic standards. It's just not gonna happen.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:13 am to Cheese Grits
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You are aware the B1G blackballed Nebraska I think 2 or 3 times back around 100 years ago and yet Nebraska still joined in 2010.
Nebraska doesn't have the egotistical blowhards that ND has. Hell, Alabama doesnt even have the egotistical blowhards that ND has, and thats a mouthful and a half right there.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:26 am to TwoBarBammer
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unless they lower their academic standards.
Stanford not withstanding...unfortunate but true.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 2:06 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
This is the third or fourth time you have brought this up.
Mizzou isnt going to the B1G.
The main and most important reason is it is dedicated and loyal to the SEC.
Another thing is that there was some seriously burnt bridges after 2010 in the dealings between the B1G and Mizzou.
The whole premise is silly and deserves not a second of thought honestly.
Mizzou isnt going to the B1G.
The main and most important reason is it is dedicated and loyal to the SEC.
Another thing is that there was some seriously burnt bridges after 2010 in the dealings between the B1G and Mizzou.
The whole premise is silly and deserves not a second of thought honestly.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 2:32 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Why would the B1G be a better fit for Mizzou? Playing Nebraska and Illinois every year? Is that really that more important than playing Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, USC and Vandy? I don't think so. Also with the money involved in the SEC, there is even less reason to leave. Obviously their historic rivalries mean nothing to them or they wouldn't have openly pinned for the B1G in the first place. Now that they are in the SEC, why leave? It won't be for rivalries. It won't be for money. What other reasons are there?
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