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re: A Closer Look at Texas A&M
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:02 am to Tayday
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:02 am to Tayday
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Care to elaborate?
Shutting out Texas A&M and LSU in the 2nd half to bail out their offense.
Matt Elam's strip is a perfect example.
Keeping LSU out of the endzone at the end of the 1st half.
Sacking Bray to force a punt after the failed fake punt against UT.
Sacking Manziel to prevent another FG to end the half at Texas AM.
UF's defense has been bailing out the offense all year. Clutch plays at key moments.
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Erm USCe won't take kindly to this.
Total Offense
Texas AM = #6
Tennessee = #22
South Carolina = #83.....
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:02 am to slayerxing
That's a very fair analysis. LSU's D is legit without question. They also haven't faced on offense like A&M's though, especially the hurry up/spread style. The last team they faced that was similar was WVU last year and they put up over 500 yards of offense on LSU and they had no one that could run like Manziel or the A&M RB's and WVU has no defense this year or last.
I do think the LSU D has a real chance of shutting down the A&M O but I don't think it is a lock. A&M is a team that is hard to prepare for and has a lot of weapons. A missed tackle becomes a TD very quickly because the D is spread out and all of the skill players on A&M's team are burners. It's a very hard offense to prepare for because it is so different than other SEC teams, especially with Manziel who is so unusual with the way he runs and moves in the pocket.
I also think Kyle is a real factor. Not because LSU will feel intimidated but I do think A&M will get a lot of energy from it. It's the Maroon Out game and in the 13 years of the Maroon Out A&M has 6 wins over Top 25 teams in which they were underdogs. It's certainly not a lock but the team and the crowd will be fired up even though we got the crappy start time.
Honestly I think if they play the game 10 times LSU probably wins 6 and A&M 4, we'll just have to see how it turns out.
I do think the LSU D has a real chance of shutting down the A&M O but I don't think it is a lock. A&M is a team that is hard to prepare for and has a lot of weapons. A missed tackle becomes a TD very quickly because the D is spread out and all of the skill players on A&M's team are burners. It's a very hard offense to prepare for because it is so different than other SEC teams, especially with Manziel who is so unusual with the way he runs and moves in the pocket.
I also think Kyle is a real factor. Not because LSU will feel intimidated but I do think A&M will get a lot of energy from it. It's the Maroon Out game and in the 13 years of the Maroon Out A&M has 6 wins over Top 25 teams in which they were underdogs. It's certainly not a lock but the team and the crowd will be fired up even though we got the crappy start time.
Honestly I think if they play the game 10 times LSU probably wins 6 and A&M 4, we'll just have to see how it turns out.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 9:58 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Plus LSU's play is extremely uneven.
That is both putting it mildly and nicely.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:05 am to aggressor
I don't think that A&M has quite the burners that they should at WR for this offense, but they're good enough. WVU gave LSU troubles, but we're not as adept at distributing the ball and have significantly more QB run threat, so it's not a direct comparison.
I think JFF gives us a puncher's chance, and the early start is more of an equalizer.
I think JFF gives us a puncher's chance, and the early start is more of an equalizer.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:15 am to nighttrain30
Well the op was just a big argument of using facts to justify his pre-determined conclusion 
Lets just wait and see a good game Saturday
Lets just wait and see a good game Saturday
Posted on 10/15/12 at 10:20 am to Ace Midnight
frick if all of this isn't stupid.
Y'all say A&M hasn't played a good defense and that our No. 6 offensive total offense ranking is misleading because we've faced:
Florida (#13 in total defense)
SMU (#73)
Arkansas (#92)
Ole Miss (#41)
LA Tech (#119)
AVERAGE RANKING 67.6
We say LSU hasn't played a good offense and your No. 2 total defense rating is misleading because you have played:
UNT (#81 in total offense)
Washington (#109)
Idaho (#108)
Auburn (#116)
Florida (#82)
South Carolina (#83)
AVERAGE RANKING 95.5
LSU will field the best defense we'll face until until the Ags head to BDS. A&M will field BY FAR the best offense LSU will face all season and maybe in the postseason as well.
So yeah, it's going to be a good game. Trying to act the stats only matter one way is ridiculous.
Y'all say A&M hasn't played a good defense and that our No. 6 offensive total offense ranking is misleading because we've faced:
Florida (#13 in total defense)
SMU (#73)
Arkansas (#92)
Ole Miss (#41)
LA Tech (#119)
AVERAGE RANKING 67.6
We say LSU hasn't played a good offense and your No. 2 total defense rating is misleading because you have played:
UNT (#81 in total offense)
Washington (#109)
Idaho (#108)
Auburn (#116)
Florida (#82)
South Carolina (#83)
AVERAGE RANKING 95.5
LSU will field the best defense we'll face until until the Ags head to BDS. A&M will field BY FAR the best offense LSU will face all season and maybe in the postseason as well.
So yeah, it's going to be a good game. Trying to act the stats only matter one way is ridiculous.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 1:41 pm to OldSulRoss
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LSU will field the best defense we'll face until until the Ags head to BDS. A&M will field BY FAR the best offense LSU will face all season and maybe in the postseason as well.
So yeah, it's going to be a good game. Trying to act the stats only matter one way is ridiculous.
All of that is very fair and balanced. The scary thing is that aTm is playing above the overall talent level, especially on offense. I think that, all things being equal a team with an outstanding defense and a mediocre offense has a much easier time against a team with an outstanding offense and mediocre defense, because of ball control issues, etc. However, if you have one team (and I'm excluding our performance against USCe which was beyond inspired in light of the adversity up to this point) that is, on balance, playing much better as a team AND you have the game at home, ya'll likely have a very good game against us and I would expect it to be very competitive.
The relative talent levels ( I would grade LSU A or A-, to aTm @ B to B-) mean less under the circumstances surrounding this game. I don't know how your injury picture is looking, but ours would be expected to negate whatever talent advantage we might have - plus our superstars (defnese) will face your superstars (offense), generally - and what talent advantage we do have would be in DL and RB depth.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 2:05 pm to Ace Midnight
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However, if you have one team (and I'm excluding our performance against USCe which was beyond inspired in light of the adversity up to this point) that is, on balance, playing much better as a team AND you have the game at home, ya'll likely have a very good game against us and I would expect it to be very competitive.
That's all I'm hoping for. If we can stay on the field and in the game in Year 1 of this deal, I will be pleased. Like I said in another thread, I think we probably win this game 3 times in 10 tries. So although it's not a 50/50 tossup, it's not unthinkable.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 2:10 pm to OldSulRoss
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So yeah, it's going to be a good game. Trying to act the stats only matter one way is ridiculous.
fair enough, the only advantage lsu's defense may have as far as being tested is that a good number of them were on last years team which faced plenty of good offenses. obviously last year is last year and this year is a different team but they do have more experience than JF and sometimes experience wins big games.
but like you stated, we'll see on saturday!
Posted on 10/15/12 at 2:12 pm to OldSulRoss
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That's all I'm hoping for. If we can stay on the field and in the game in Year 1 of this deal, I will be pleased. Like I said in another thread, I think we probably win this game 3 times in 10 tries. So although it's not a 50/50 tossup, it's not unthinkable.
Ya'll have already surprised me. It is amazing what a change of scenery will do.
I'm a little bummed because over time, it will likely hurt us more than any other SEC team, as our most fertile recruiting area outside of Louisiana is the Houston/SE Texas area. The better ya'll do on the field, the bigger fights we will be in for those SE Texas recruits.
Historically, ya'll more or less dominated the first 16 games of the series and the last 13.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 2:20 pm to G11G ME
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LSU has shown gapping holes in their offense, and that they aren't immortals this year like we all expected
We just ran for 230 against one of the best run defenses in the country. Your defense is shite compared to USCe. We are going to run down your throats. Good day sir.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 5:06 pm to TeLeFaWx
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As far as holding us to 17? Laughable. Florida did that in Johnny's first start ever, and he has drastically improved since. He has broken the SEC record for total offense... TWICE. If you honestly believe you're holding the A&M offense to 17, you're insane.
Bump...
excluding garbage points, we held y'all to 12 points at home. But yeah, we're insane.
Posted on 10/20/12 at 5:33 pm to GeauxWarTigers
Posted on 10/20/12 at 5:38 pm to GeauxWarTigers
Boom shocka locka
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