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9 conference games?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:02 pm
I think it's inevitable this happens in order to increase revenues from TV and ticket sales. Will make scheduling quality OOC a rarity, but also one less cupcake, so I'm all for it 
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:10 pm to Mithridates6
I think this virus may be the thing that makes the power 5 break off for good
Power 5 doesn’t need to be in the business of funding the rest of the NCAA model
It’s also time for the women to support themselves and baseball deserves 25 full scholarships
Power 5 doesn’t need to be in the business of funding the rest of the NCAA model
It’s also time for the women to support themselves and baseball deserves 25 full scholarships
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:13 pm to nicholastiger
I've been thinking that as well. A national super conference with 4 regional divisions
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:47 pm to Mithridates6
I don't see a 9 game conference schedule in the SEC. If a team with 5 home games wins a tie breaker over a team with 5 away games, there would be riots in the streets. I could support a 10 game conference schedule though.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:21 pm to Mithridates6
Go to 10 Conf Games
Cut out as many cupcakes as possible
Use the 2 OoC games for playing other P5 & G5 programs
In my perfect world of CFB, P5 & G5 play each other only, it is not the burden of P5 CFB to financially prop-up or subsidize lower levels of CFB where the Teams get 7 figure paydays to get their brains beat in
Run your sport the best you can on your level, create interest & excitement and grow your business model without reliance on "paycheck games" while your Athletes are getting brutalized for 4 hrs
Cut out as many cupcakes as possible
Use the 2 OoC games for playing other P5 & G5 programs
In my perfect world of CFB, P5 & G5 play each other only, it is not the burden of P5 CFB to financially prop-up or subsidize lower levels of CFB where the Teams get 7 figure paydays to get their brains beat in
Run your sport the best you can on your level, create interest & excitement and grow your business model without reliance on "paycheck games" while your Athletes are getting brutalized for 4 hrs
Posted on 5/9/20 at 7:38 am to MyMossHangs
No way UGA, UF, USC, & UK only have 1 game to schedule anybody since #11 is in-state ACC rival.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 7:39 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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9 conference games? by PeeJayScammedGT
Go to 10 Conf Games
Cut out as many cupcakes as possible
Guess we cut out GT then.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:02 pm to Mithridates6
The problem with 9 conference games is, every other year you have fewer home conference games than road ones.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The problem with 9 conference games is, every other year you have fewer home conference games than road ones.
In Conferences with 12 or more Members you bypass 9 Games and go straight to 10 Conference Games that way the home schedules are much easier to make out each season - 5 home Conference games 5 away Conference games
No need to make in Conference scheduling difficult with 9 Conference games
The Big12 only has 10 Teams so they don't have a choice, since they refuse to add Rice, Houston and SMU to get to 12 Members since that would dilute Texas' in state Recruiting, even if Rice isn't committed to big time Sports, you could add Houston, SMU & Memphis to get to 12 members
I think the NCAA should mandate that all P5 Conferences get to at least 12 Teams and any Conference with at least 12 members go to at least 10 Conference Games
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:20 pm to Mithridates6
It's a bad idea for the conference.
All it does is bring more total losses to the conference. Those games are better suited for OOC games against quality P5 opponents, so that conference strength can be shown in the games, and also because it means more possible total wins for the conference as a whole.
All it does is bring more total losses to the conference. Those games are better suited for OOC games against quality P5 opponents, so that conference strength can be shown in the games, and also because it means more possible total wins for the conference as a whole.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:46 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The Big12 only has 10 Teams so they don't have a choice
Two of their members have a permanent neutral site game so they aren't affected.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The problem with 9 conference games is, every other year you have fewer home conference games than road ones.
I’ve never understood why this is a big deal. One year you have 4 home games and your rival has 5 the next year its the opposite.
It doesn’t advantage anyone any more than the alternating sites of yearly games does.
I’m all for a 9 game conference schedule. I’d actually prefer the 3 permanents 5 rotating pods thing, but 9 conference games is fine too.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:06 pm to 3down10
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It's a bad idea for the conference.
All it does is bring more total losses to the conference. Those games are better suited for OOC games against quality P5 opponents, so that conference strength can be shown in the games, and also because it means more possible total wins for the conference as a whole.
If all P5 Conferences are forced to do the same thing then things will all balance out and no one will be at a disadvantage
The problem is is that CFB Fans are too enamored with the idea of the magical undefeated season, in the NFL the SB Champ is rarely undefeated (1 time in NFL history), yet the SB won by a 6 loss Wildcard Team is celebrated just as passionately as an undefeated season by a College Team
If the P5 & G5 only played each other, the Champ might have 1-2 losses, but the Regular Season would be better and mean more with better TV matchups and most Fans would be a lot happier
Keeping the current system with 2 cupcakes on most P5 Skeds does nothing for the Game or the Fans
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:53 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Keeping the current system with 2 cupcakes on most P5 Skeds does nothing for the Game or the Fans
It does enable the G5 schools to stay in business plus the cupcake home games certainly add revenue to the school and town.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:46 pm to RD Dawg
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It does enable the G5 schools to stay in business plus the cupcake home games certainly add revenue to the school and town
Why is it the burden of P5 Programs to financially subsidize lower level Programs?
Over the years Arizona & Arizona State elevated themselves from WAC teams to P5 Teams, same for Utah, Boise State was D1-AA and now they are consistently a 10 win G5 Program, look at how far USF & UCF have come as FB Programs, same for GA State & GA Southern
Schools that want to grow big and run their programs the right way can do it if they really want, the requirement that these money games be played is troubling
As a P5 Fan , I want the best slate of TV games and matchups, I don't watch P5 FB to see FCS and other levels of garbage CFB artificially subsidized
The ADs at the lower levels earn 6 figure paychecks ( usually over $300K) maybe they should earn their money and find a way to turn a profit without forcing their student-Athletes to be sacrificial lambs for bigger-stronger-faster guys at the P5 level
I have no problem with G5 vs P5 games, but FCS vs P5 should be banned by the NCAA, some teams go so far as to play DII Teams that only offer about 25 schollies for the entire Team, FCS offers 63 schollies for the entire Team
Explain to us why Fans of P5 CFB should suffer through boring games vs lesser teams and a worse TV schedule just to subsidize lower level CFB?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:27 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Why is it the burden of P5 Programs to financially subsidize lower level Programs?
I never said it was.I was just responding to his point.
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Over the years Arizona & Arizona State elevated themselves from WAC teams to P5
Both were big state schools with big enrollments same for Utah.Arizona State has more undergrads than any SEC school.
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same for GA State & GA Southern
Both couldn't exist in D1 without playing P5 schools.
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Schools that want to grow big and run their programs the right way can do it if they really want,
Very few could it without massive enrollment.See:UCF and USF
Boise is the lone exception.
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maybe they should earn their money and find a way to turn a profit without forcing their student-Athletes to be sacrificial lambs for bigger-stronger-faster guys at the P5 level
How? Raffles to draw more fans?
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The ADs at the lower levels earn 6 figure paychecks ( usually over $300K)
You'll get no argument from me about ALL college administrators and their salaries.
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I have no problem with G5 vs P5 games, but FCS vs P5 should be banned by the NCAA
Nah,the NCAA shouldn't have a say so over any P5 school.If Clemson wants to help out
in-state FCS schools is their choice.
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Explain to us why Fans of P5 CFB should suffer through boring games vs lesser teams and a worse TV schedule just to subsidize lower level CFB?
I've simply stated that you're taking away
a home game and the revenue that it generates for the Athletic Dept and town.
Don't know why this is so hard to figure out as a reason for these games.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 8:10 pm to Mithridates6
I rarely agree with an LSU, but it's time, way past time. It's ridiculous that a player can play four years and not see every stadium. Georgia hasn't played at Alabama since 2007.
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