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Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Generally, teams that play close games are on par with each other.
A&M is on par with Ole Miss then.
Certainly auburn at 1-6 is on par with LSU at 7-1.
LSU and A&M played a close game, but the programs are galaxies away in accomplishments and overall prestige.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:44 am to r2d2
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Certainly auburn at 1-6 is on par with LSU at 7-1
Um, what was the LSU-Auburn score, Sparky? Not sure I'd use this as a nugget in my debate.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:45 am to r2d2
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A&M is on par with Ole Miss then.
Certainly auburn at 1-6 is on par with LSU at 7-1.
LSU and A&M played a close game, but the programs are galaxies away in accomplishments and overall prestige.
This. Some of them are trying so hard to justify the loss. Typical we made mistakes LSU didn't beat us type talk. They will get another shot next year. Good luck until then.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:48 am to I-59 Tiger
To the contrary it proves my point. One close game does not mean that necessarily two teams/programs are close in overall talent-prestige.
LSU barely beat Ole Miss in TS in OT in 2006 for instance but finished 11-2 and next season won the NC. How close Ole Miss came to that?
LSU barely beat Ole Miss in TS in OT in 2006 for instance but finished 11-2 and next season won the NC. How close Ole Miss came to that?
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:49 am to r2d2
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A&M is on par with Ole Miss then.
Not denying this.
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LSU and A&M played a close game
Which is what is implied by "on par."
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but the programs are galaxies away in accomplishments and overall prestige.
Now you're changing the argument. What I meant was that on October 20, 2012, the LSU and A&M football squads were very close to even on the gridiron. That's not a fact to get your panties in a wad over, and it's not a moral victory for A&M.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:50 am to r2d2
If we are such a premier program and they are so rinky-dink why do you keep making excuses as to why the game was close ?
I promise you if you congratulate them for a helluva an effort no one will revoke your man card. Honest.
I promise you if you congratulate them for a helluva an effort no one will revoke your man card. Honest.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:53 am to TbirdSpur2010
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What I meant was that on October 20, 2012, the LSU and A&M football squads were very close to even on the gridiron..
If that was your point then I misunderstood.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:54 am to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
If LSU and A&M played 10 games at a neutral site how many would each team win?
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:57 am to I-59 Tiger
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I-59 Tiger
There are a few prevailing extremist attitudes on sports message boards today-- a couple of which are those that believe every win is a thorough domination of their opponent, and every loss can be thoroughly mitigated through moral victories. I hate both.
A&M lost. I got over it before the next round of games was over last saturday evening and I'm excited as hell for the Auburn game. I'm not going to make excuses for how we lost, but I'm not going to sit here and act like we got blown out by 50, either.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 8:59 am to I-59 Tiger
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270 yards passing is why A&M lost! If we are such a premier program and they are so rinky-dink why do you keep making excuses as to why the game was close ? I promise you if you congratulate them for a helluva an effort no one will revoke your man card. Honest.
Dude I started this thread and the point of it had nothing to do with degrading them or claiming LSU's greatness. It was having a discussion if A&M should have thrown the ball as much in a highly contested game. I showed plenty of respect to them see my several posts.
I honestly think with more patience they win. The TO where the game and most came in INts. Less passes= less INts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:00 am to Wazoo
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If LSU and A&M played 10 games at a neutral site how many would each team win?
Irrelevant. For the record, I believe LSU would win 60%-70%, but the argument is so arbitrary it hardly has merit.
I'm content knowing we played y'all close--would not have predicted that a year ago, and am hopeful for next season at y'all's house.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:00 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I'm not going to make excuses for how we lost, but I'm not going to sit here and act like we got blown out by 50, either.
Nobody is saying this. We are just pointing out that sometimes, the score does not correctly indicate how close a game was. According to aggie fans, this is impossible. Every football game is correctly reflected by the score.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:00 am to r2d2
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:11 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I believe LSU would win 60%-70%,
I think this is about right.
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would not have predicted that a year ago, and am hopeful for next season at y'all's house.
I agree with this as well. If A&M can figure out their defense, they will compete for SEC titles a few years down the road. I think comparing them to Arkansas of the last 5 years is accurate.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:23 am to Wazoo
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If A&M can figure out their defense, they will compete for SEC titles a few years down the road.
The main issue with our defense is depth (as evidenced by the LaTech game). Snyder (our DC) has done an excellent job, I think, in putting our players in schemes that allow them to be successful with adequate execution. The talent gap will bite us in the arse for a couple seasons, but overall I think we're headed in the right direction more quickly than most anticipated.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
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but overall I think we're headed in the right direction more quickly than most anticipated.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:25 am to TbirdSpur2010
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The main issue with our defense is depth (as evidenced by the LaTech game). Snyder (our DC) has done an excellent job, I think, in putting our players in schemes that allow them to be successful with adequate execution. The talent gap will bite us in the arse for a couple seasons, but overall I think we're headed in the right direction more quickly than most anticipated.
I've been saying all along that once your coach figures out he needs to start putting his best players he recruits on defense instead of offense, A&M will be a contender for the SEC.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:29 am to Chimlim
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I've been saying all along that once your coach figures out he needs to start putting his best players he recruits on defense instead of offense, A&M will be a contender for the SEC.
Yeah, I think Sumlin realizes this, but in order to be even moderately successful right out the gate, he had to make do with the players Sherman had recruited to survive a big12 slate. Even though A&M fell flat in 2011, the talent was there to make waves in that league. Moving to the SEC with big12-caliber players, the only way to keep things competitive is to supercharge your offense and hope the D hang on for the ride until they catch up talent-wise. I think he's done a pretty good job overall with that, and the defense has really stepped up in a big way compared to last year, in my opinion. SEC-caliber defense? Not there yet.
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:38 am to r2d2
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the programs are galaxies away in accomplishments and overall prestige.
FWIW, you get no points for previous accomplishments or overall prestige when playing a game.
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