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re: 1st CFP Rankings (2 LSU, 4 Bama, 10 FLA, 18 OM, 19 TAM, 20 Miss St)
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:15 pm to Skeeterpop
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:15 pm to Skeeterpop
Alabama fan arguments is basically that they should be rewarded for beating teams that were overranked at beginning of the season.
lol
lol
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 7:17 pm
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:18 pm to Crimson1st
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Umm nope...2 big 10 teams with shitty defenses and shitty SOS plus MSU who simply is over-rated. You seem to be the one getting carried away and basing everything off being undefeated. There are undefeated Pop-Warner teams now, does that make them better than Stanford, Florida, Bama, etc...just because they are undefeated? It does matter who you have played along the way.
If TCU or Baylor runs the table (especially Baylor, they have a brutal stretch ahead) they are in. So that's not a problem. But I don't see how.. when comparing resumes.. Alabama could be ranked ahead of Iowa.
Iowa is undefeated. Beat Wisconsin (Alabamas best win) on the road. Beat #21 Northwestern on the road 40-10.
Alabama lost to Ole Miss at home. Also beat Wisconsin. Best win is against #19 Texas A&M on the road.
Very similar resumes.. and one team has a loss. The only logical explanation is that the committee is playing to the matchups and building hype for a battle of top-5 teams. Smart business IMO. Don't get me wrong.. Bama would destroy Iowa -- but based on resumes -- it's hard to comprehend when you remove the namebrand.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:18 pm to Jamie Lannister
Alabama probably shouldn't be 4th. I think UF should be ranked ahead of them.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:19 pm to Crimson1st
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2 big 10 teams with shitty defenses and shitty SOS plus MSU who simply is over-rated
How many times are people going to say nonsense like this? TCU beat the ever loving shite out of a team that is 2-0 against you in the past two years, and they would have beaten Bama and anyone else in the conference. Y'all got your dicks pushed in by Zeke Elliott last year, among others (and I'm not saying LSU wouldn't by an even wider margin). Bowl season after bowl season has illuminated the fact that the gulf between the SEC and the other conferences has never been as wide as our idiot fans believe it is, and it has shrunk dramatically over the past few years.
To your other point, Bama's SOS and resume thus far are very lackluster, and Michigan State has a more impressive win on their resume at the very least.
The Bama entitlement is nauseating in its own right, but the SEC homerism that supports it is worse.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:19 pm to LovetheLord
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And after Alavama beats LSU and they collapse and lose to Ole Miss the next week, we lose yet another quality win. When will Bama find a quality opponent. Somebody show up!
This may happen. In that situation.. Alabama isn't going to the CFP anyways unless Ole Miss falls apart in the Egg bowl
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:19 pm to bmy
quote:Again, people WAY overvalue losses.
I don't see how.. when comparing resumes.. Alabama could be ranked ahead of Iowa. Iowa is undefeated.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:21 pm to GEAUXmedic
Bama at 4 but UF at 10 is fricking retarded.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:21 pm to slackster
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That is complete horse shite. UGA was overrated, period. They've been exposed. You shouldn't get credit for beating #7 UGA when they're a bad team in general.
You do realize that once a QB collapses mentally and with their confidence, they often do not come back right? Also, Chubb has since been eliminated...you are not really factoring in how a good, talent laden team can come undone when they take some major hits. You can't just say they were over-rated without looking at what has transpired from the start of the season until now.
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Current rankings at the time you played are complete bologna, particularly in September and October.
Now this may be true in some cases but if you are going to use this metric to gauge a team's resume', it can also haunt you as teams jockey at the end of the season versus the middle of the season as well, where we are presently. So those of you who want to crow about a specific win being better now...those wins can be tarnished when the season moves on as well so I feel some credit should be given to where the teams were ranked when they were played...not all but at least some.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:22 pm to Skeeterpop
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The majority of the country thought both UGA and A&M were legit teams and many thought they would beat Bama. Both were undefeated after several games and ranked in the top 10. So Bamas wins were very good wins. The fact they broke those teams spirit and they declined after the loss is not Bamas fault. Many teams have fallen apart after a huge loss to Alabama, or any other strong team for that matter.
I've noticed a strange coincidence over my years of watching college football. The more games a bad team plays.. the more games they lose.. and the lower they are ranked.
It's the craziest thing
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:24 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Again, people WAY overvalue losses.
this how SEC bias works
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:27 pm to Jamie Lannister
quote:I said nothing about the SEC....
this how SEC bias works
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:28 pm to Jamie Lannister
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SEC bias
You mean us legitimately being better than other conferences? There are probably 5 SEC teams that could win the ACC this year.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I said nothing about the SEC....
ok
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:31 pm to bmy
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So half of the fricking preseason top-10 is now unranked and you want to give teams credit for beating a top-10 team?
That is what you're supposed to do.
The Oregon that MSU beat was a better Oregon than the team Utah beat, and they were both significantly better than the Oregon that Wazzu beat.
I've got no problem with MSU and Utah moving up based on the wins at the time, but the CFB Playoff Committee has the benefit of waiting for 9 weeks to release their poll. They get to see that Oregon was just a bad team. They used that as a reason to keep MSU at 8 or 9 or w/e they are, but they gave Bama major credit for the Texas A&M and UGA wins.
Hell, they probably gave Bama credit for losing to a #3 ranked Ole Miss, but view UF's win as a win over #19 Ole Miss. It is fricking asinine.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:31 pm to Lou Pai
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How many times are people going to say nonsense like this? TCU beat the ever loving shite out of a team that is 2-0 against you in the past two years, and they would have beaten Bama and anyone else in the conference
I was wrong, I meant 2 Big 12 teams...I get the conferences backwards at times when being hasty. But anyway, Ole Miss was so depleted at the end of the year last year...if you were being fair you would have to say that isn't a great comparison.
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Y'all got your dicks pushed in by Zeke Elliott last year, among others (and I'm not saying LSU wouldn't by an even wider margin). Bowl season after bowl season has illuminated the fact that the gulf between the SEC and the other conferences has never been as wide as our idiot fans believe it is
I don't deny some of what you said but OSU, to me, is better both years than MSU. This year MSU doesn't have much of a resume and should already have a loss or two. I was speaking of MSU specifically and not the Big 10(except for my error in conference listing, which I apologize for again)
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To your other point, Bama's SOS and resume thus far are very lackluster
Not really...
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Michigan State has a more impressive win on their resume at the very least.
Not really...
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The Bama entitlement is nauseating in its own right, but the SEC homerism that supports it is worse.
No, I am arguing for what I feel are good arguments that have been bore out consistently over the recent years, with a few exceptions, but some of the arguments against Bama and the SEC have been much more slanted and biased by some(not you necessarily) who want to seem like they have some special enlightenment and can't accept there are reasons the committee chose how they did.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Again, people WAY overvalue losses.
Again -- let's compare wins. Both teams beat Wisconsin. Alabama destroyed current #19 Texas A&M on the road. Iowa destroyed current #21 Northwestern on the road.
Who else has Alabama played? MTSU, ULM, Georgia (5-3 in a terrible division, unranked), Arkansas (4-4 but will need an absolute miracle to not have a losing season, unranked), Tennessee choked a game away (3-4 in a terrible division but pretty tough schedule, unranked)
Who else has Iowa played? Pittsburgh (6-2), Illinois (4-4), Iowa St (3-5). I hardly find the difference to be earth shattering.
Both teams have played some really bad teams and some decent ones.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:31 pm to Jamie Lannister
Ok....?
I'm not sure what your problem is. Message boards are for discussing things. You're, you're...idk what you're doing
I'm not sure what your problem is. Message boards are for discussing things. You're, you're...idk what you're doing
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:32 pm to GRTiger
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In theory, Bama being there is great for LSU. If they maintain consistency, we should still be in the top 4 with a loss.
But I'm sure that you guys wouldn't even consider excepting a mulligan. Principle, and all...
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:33 pm to Crimson1st
we ought to just give Bama an automatic playoff berth every year and have 3 open spots.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:34 pm to Sid E Walker
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But I'm sure that you guys wouldn't even consider excepting a mulligan. Principle, and all...
We can thank that abortion of a mulligan bowl for the retards we call the College Football Playoff committee
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