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re: 1964 National Championship

Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29162 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:35 pm to
'64 AP and UPI Trophies are in The Bryant Museum.

Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11869 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:37 pm to
The 1964 NC trophy should be awarded after each year's Bama - Arkansas game, with the winner keeping it on campus until the next game.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9869 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:40 pm to
You can come visit the 1964 AP and UPI National Championship trophies in Tuscaloosa
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Y'all can't claim 64 and 65

After all this time, and people still don't understand how championships work.

UNIVERSITIES DON'T "CLAIM" CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Here's how it actually works:

At the end of the season, either before bowls or after, certain organizations AWARD championships to teams they feel were the best, or at least deserve the championship the most. These awards usually come in the form of a trophy.

Here's where the university comes in:

Depending on the perceived prestige of the organization awarding the championship, a university may choose to acknowledge the award or not. Reputable universities will only recognize awards from the AP/Coaches organizations since they've been in existence. Some may or may not recognize pre-AP Rose Bowls as de facto championships.

Disreputable universities will acknowledge all the championships they have been awarded, no matter the prestige of the organization. 1941 comes to mind.

So, in short, there is no "claim", you either have the trophy or you don't. If you have it, you either choose to recognize it or you don't.

Unfortunately, no one will actually learn anything from my post. The ones who already agree with it will be all like, "Well, yeah, duh." while others who have never understood how it works will just be like, "Wait, wha...?" and proceed to ask the same stupid question over and over.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26015 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:43 pm to
Joe said he scored. One ref said he scored then some Longhorns uncle came in and said no
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1174 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:47 pm to
Hog fans act like it was a no-brainer. That everyone but Bama fans thinks Arkansas was the NC, yet, TWO news service polls of HUNDREDS of sportswriters across the whole country named Bama ‘64 NC.

We lived with split NC until the BCS. AR can claim what they want but Bama has the hardware for 64 and just because their dream team of Jones, Johnson, and Hatfield is a feel good story, the standards are in the Bryant Museum.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

All pre-BCS championships are BS.

Works for me.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15717 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:10 pm to
If you can name a school that won either the AP or UPI title and dont claim it I will agree with you
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:11 pm to
Or all those times Notre Dame refused to play in a bowl.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

 you would have lost to Bama in 64.

Because you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Y'all lost to Texas in the bowl and we already beat them........no we wouldn't have and the one opponent that you lost to actually examplifies the argument that Arkansas is the real champion.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 6:16 pm
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:37 pm to
U dk football..Joe namath beats Texas anyway...if for a Natty he plays entire game and wins by 3 tds
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:16 pm to
Retroactive is for puzzays
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125729 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

Disreputable universities will acknowledge all the championships they have been awarded, no matter the prestige of the organization. 1941 comes to mind.
ISWYDT. Damn baw
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

U dk football..Joe namath beats Texas anyway...if for a Natty he plays entire game and wins by 3 tds

What in the frick are you talking about? Joe Namath was the MVP of the 1965 Orange Bowl throwing for over 300 yards with 2 TDs and no picks ('64 season obviously) and y'all lost cause you couldn't score a TD in the fourth. You are literaly talking out of your arse. You lost to Texas with Namath playing one of his best college games ever. Get tf over it your 64 championship is hallow.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:30 pm to
Yes..when did he come into the game you crazy crack head
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:32 pm to
Namath scored the game winning td on a a QB sneak.. Everybody knew it ..refs called it a td...one corrupt ref overturned it you gay slur...
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:33 pm to
It was an exhibition game you sissy
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18486 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:42 pm to
No changing history for you little snowflakes...



Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7929 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:43 pm to
man, it was all white boys. Prairie View A&M might have been better than both teams, so stop your whining.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

stop your whining.

I'll stop when you give Prairie View that Natty
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