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We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60's
Posted by rebelrouser on 1/24/23 at 8:45 am

re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 1/24/23 at 8:53 am to rebelrouser

Our history was impressive until you get to about 1971. Then it becomes exceedingly mediocre.
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Oxford Ways
on 1/24/23 at 9:12 am to rebelrouser

If you go off recognized titles, we got ours before Alabama won their first... what could've been
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 1/24/23 at 9:28 am to Oxford Ways

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If you go off recognized titles, we got ours before Alabama won their first... what could've been
Does the NCAA not recognize Bama's titles in 1930 and 1934, among others?
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Oxford Ways
on 1/24/23 at 3:55 pm to Tornado Alley

No you're right... That's what I get for using the SEC website for historical info regarding SEC timeline team titles 

re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 1/25/23 at 10:29 am to Oxford Ways

I was about to say, pretty sure Bama won the Rose Bowl with undefeated teams a few times in the 20s and 30s.
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Eric Nies Grind Time
on 1/25/23 at 11:03 am to Tornado Alley


What year did you guys integrate? 

re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by rebelrouser on 1/25/23 at 1:15 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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What year did you guys integrate?
1971 Gentle Ben Williams, which makes those rankings even more impressive.
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re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Eric Nies Grind Time
on 1/25/23 at 1:19 pm to rebelrouser


Classic case of go woke go broke
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 1/25/23 at 1:27 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time

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Classic case of go woke go broke

Quality post ol' chap.
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Cheese Grits
on 1/29/23 at 8:47 am to rebelrouser


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We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60's
Probably better than 7th if you get rid of the sportswriters of the era
That was in the peak of the NCAA dictatorship of Walter Byers that served the B1G and PAC at the exclusion of the rest of the US.
New York's Mike Francesa referred to him as an "Oz-like" figure who ran the NCAA with ultimate control. Byers was also described as a "petty tyrant." The New York Times said that he was sometimes known as "That power-mad Walter Byers."
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by GoldenReb on 1/29/23 at 11:47 am to Cheese Grits
I don’t know about the whole decade average, but I would put that team that gave up the Billy Canon run against any team from that decade. Gotta be a top 3 team from that era of football.
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 1/30/23 at 2:22 pm to Tornado Alley

Just to add a little more information to this thread, here is our decade-by-decade record.
1890s - 17-10 (no team in 1897) (62.9%)
1900s - 23-32-3 (39.7%)
1910s - 40-37-3 (50.0%)
1920s - 40-47-4 (44.0%)
1930s - 54-42-8 (51.9%)
1940s - 46-37-2 (no team in 1943) (54.1%)
1950s - 80-21-5 (75.5%)
1960s - 77-25-6 (71.3%)
1970s - 56-54 (50.9%)
1980s - 49-60-4 (43.4%)
1990s - 66-49 (57.4%)
2000s - 63-58 (52.1%)
2010s - 60-64 (43.4%)
2020s - 23-13 (63.9%)
In light of this information, I take back what I said in the second post. We are average outside of Vaught. Periodt. We have had some good but not great teams from time-to-time, but have rarely (really, never) strung together consistent success.
1890s - 17-10 (no team in 1897) (62.9%)
1900s - 23-32-3 (39.7%)
1910s - 40-37-3 (50.0%)
1920s - 40-47-4 (44.0%)
1930s - 54-42-8 (51.9%)
1940s - 46-37-2 (no team in 1943) (54.1%)
1950s - 80-21-5 (75.5%)
1960s - 77-25-6 (71.3%)
1970s - 56-54 (50.9%)
1980s - 49-60-4 (43.4%)
1990s - 66-49 (57.4%)
2000s - 63-58 (52.1%)
2010s - 60-64 (43.4%)
2020s - 23-13 (63.9%)
In light of this information, I take back what I said in the second post. We are average outside of Vaught. Periodt. We have had some good but not great teams from time-to-time, but have rarely (really, never) strung together consistent success.
This post was edited on 1/31 at 7:03 am
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by REBEL5 AC
on 2/1/23 at 8:23 am to Tornado Alley

With Luke and Nutt having nearly half the 2010's, I'm surprised we were even that close to .500
re: We were the seventh best team in the country during the 60'sPosted by Tornado Alley
on 2/1/23 at 9:02 am to REBEL5 AC

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With Luke and Nutt having nearly half the 2010's, I'm surprised we were even that close to .500
They had exactly half of the 2010s, and our record with them as head coach was:
2010 - 4-8 (1-7)
2011 - 2-10 (0-8)
2017 - 6-6 (3-5)
2018 - 5-7 (1-7)
2019 - 4-8 (2-6)
21-39 (7-33)
That's downright depressing.
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