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re: Why should I be a liberal /Democrat?

Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:53 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:53 am to
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And since society pays more attention to the shite those people do


Just because you know a few chicks who watch this, it doesn't mean all of society does. A quick google search shows that their viewers are right at around 3 million, and there are over 300 million American citizens.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:13 pm to
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And white


Yeah, white people are so horrible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:15 pm to
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Progressives are the scum of the earth.


Why do you say that? That's a broad statement


Their goals have nothing to do with freedom. Just the opposite. They will dismantle your protections from the government. Guns first, then speech.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19420 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:20 pm to
I find it fascinating at how far apart the political parties have become. It seems like only extreme nut jobs are elected now.

What ever happened to politicians who are willing to work with the other side? Are they too afraid of not getting reelected if they stick their neck out?
There has to be more people out there like me who are moderate on a lot of issues. I'm just wondering why more aren't in office.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:38 pm to
I think that's a bit of an egregious way to look at it, but you're entitled to your opinion.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34479 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Their goals have nothing to do with freedom. Just the opposite. They will dismantle your protections from the government. Guns first, then speech.


The greatest removals of our freedoms have come about due to Republican or bi-partisan, with only Democrats actually voting against the second.

The first? Suspension of habeas corpus by Lincoln. A fundamental right granted in Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution.

The second? The Patriot Act. The only dissenting vote when it came up in 2001 was a Democrat, and in 2006 the only "No" votes - once again - came from Democrats.

Republicans can NOT take the moral high ground when it comes to "defending individual freedoms". They tossed that card into the garbage long ago.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18816 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:09 pm to
They're all full of shite and none deserve our support. The fact that they've trotted Hillary and Trump out there and know that they can get away with it shows just how far gone we are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:37 pm to
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The greatest removals of our freedoms have come about due to Republican or bi-partisan, with only Democrats actually voting against the second.


Progressives =/= Democrat. You're too hung up on party politics
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:53 pm to
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Progressives =/= Democrat. You're too hung up on party politics


I'll clarify then.

Republicans are pretty much NEVER defined as Progressives.

Yet they have been VERY anti-freedom. They keep championing the 2nd Amendment and while everyone blindly cheers, they erode all the rest.

Progressives have not cornered the market on anti-personal liberty. They're just late getting to the Conservative party.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:21 pm to
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Republicans are pretty much NEVER defined as Progressive


Both Bush's were progressive.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:23 pm to
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I think that's a bit of an egregious way to look at it, but you're entitled to your opinion.



Are you equating progressive and liberal? They aren't the same thing
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:26 pm to
Leftists are basically anti-civilization, violence-prone losers. Throw your lot in with those folks if that's your thing. Otherwise, don't.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
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Are you equating progressive and liberal? They aren't the same thing



Oh no, I understand that. I just do't know what you see so wrong with being a progressive. Progressivism bred modern liberalism, and they are related in many ways. Progressivism at it's core and beginnings is based on income inequality.

"always believed that wise progressivism and wise conservatism go hand in hand"-Theo Roosevelt

I assume you're a de-regulation guy?

FTR I don't identify as a full blow progressive.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:38 pm to
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Leftists are basically anti-civilization, violence-prone losers.


please elaborate
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297252 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:59 pm to
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Progressivism at it's core and beginnings is based on income inequality.

"always believed that wise progressivism and wise conservatism go hand in hand"-Theo


Those days are long gone, but still could apply some today.

Liberals have values, progs have goals. Progs believe the ends justify the means.

Progs are the left leaning version of social conservatives.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34479 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:40 pm to
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please elaborate


He can't.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136251 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 12:16 pm to
Reasons to be a liberal democrat:

You hate America
You hate successful people (unless you have made your money on the backs of working people)
You like trying to convince minorities and poor people that you will help them.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100618 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:46 pm to
Because if you're not a liberal then you're a xenophobic, racist, privileged straight white male shitlord
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:57 pm to
We're pro-weed and we have no moral hangups about sex. If that doesn't ring your bell, you're a lost cause.
Posted by Baby Oil
Member since Jun 2016
193 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:19 pm to
You vote so you are a brain washed liberal anyway.


I mean is this the stupid section?
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