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re: Why are most crimes committed by minorities?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:35 pm to Agforlife
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:35 pm to Agforlife
quote:oh yea i know drugs flow more than freely in the wealthy areas. It is just slightly different than in the hood because you very rarely see violence over drugs in the wealthy area of town.
. Yes drugs have a lot to do with it but you would be amazed at just how much drug traffic occurs in affluent neighborhoods.
The reason for minorities committing more crime is a very deep issue. I said it earlier but its war on drugs, welfare, public education, some of the culture (which some of that comes from the other areas) and many other things.
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:36 pm to Arkla Missy
Im pretty sure my mom still has mace on her key chain from that whole time period.
I remember seeing criminal minds reference the baton rouge killers
I remember seeing criminal minds reference the baton rouge killers
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:37 pm to OBReb6
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As soon as he sees your rebuttals he will bombard you with 5+ posts in a row.
I'm sure all of them will be insightful and thought provoking retorts. Can't wait.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:38 pm to Vols&Shaft83
hopefully he doesn't pull a cat
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:41 pm to heartbreakTiger
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The reason for minorities committing more crime is a very deep issue. I said it earlier but its war on drugs, welfare, public education, some of the culture (which some of that comes from the other areas) and many other things.
Yep and until there is a major shift in cultural beliefs nothing is going to change. That shift has to come from within and I don't see that happening in my lifetime.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:47 pm to Agforlife
Yep no one can force the shift from the outside. The most effective way to try and get the shift isn't welfare. The dems know that though and use the welfare to keep them on the vote farm.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:48 pm to cas4t
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and here's some proof that they are happening in African American communities. East and South Chicago for the most part.
It's not racist to say that there is a problem. I have already said I think drugs are the main issue, and that many AA's grow up seeing selling drugs as the only way to make a living and provide for themselves and their families. But I'm sure many of these are revenge killings too. The culture with inner city AA's is 'kill or be killed'.
it's a shame.
One of Chicago's biggest problems is a decade or so ago the city decided in an effort to try and get their hands around gang violence started leveling public housing developments. They dispersed the residents throughout the city. Where once there were distinct gang lines, now gang members found themselves living next door to rival gang members. The lines aren't so clear anymore and it's nearly a war zone in some areas.
As to the original question, the simple answer is poverty. There are higher instances of poverty within minority populations than white. You can list out several other societal or cultural factors, but most of those lead back to poverty at some point.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:12 pm to The Spleen
I was simply making a point that those in AA communities are going to prison for shooting each other. Some in this thread think that if a white man were to pull a drive-by, they'd get probation.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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And I've heard your positions on this and similar topics before, I found them to be extremely partisan and one sided.
What's that? Opinions in a highly partisan issue are partisan?! The horror!
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Why should I bother debating someone who is too arrogant to look beyond his chosen party's talking points?
And what party would that be?
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You're the worst kind of racist, the wolf in sheep's clothing if you will, you actively participate in the soft bigotry of low expectations and call everyone who disagrees with you a racist.
How so? Please provide examples.
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Your views have kept the black community on the plantation, not liberated them from it. I leave you with this quote by LBJ in 1957 regarding Cival Rights:
What the frick does that have to do with me or my opinions, either the ones I espouse or the ones that you presume me to espouse?
Oh, and cute gif. You need to grow the frick up. You're not nearly as clever as you think you are.
ETA: All you did was make a bunch of assumptions about my opinions and positions and then attack them. It's classic strawman bullshite. It's sad that people ate it up, but they did. Whatever.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:20 pm to cas4t
How (and why) is this thread still going? 
You SEE, sorantable? This is why we can't have nice things
You SEE, sorantable? This is why we can't have nice things
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
You knew that this would be a shite show MB
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:27 pm to DMagic
I KNOW. I knew. I am ashamed of myself :selfcasty:
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I tried to remain neutral and give an insight from my unique pov but it was to far gone
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:38 pm to heartbreakTiger
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oh yea i know drugs flow more than freely in the wealthy areas. It is just slightly different than in the hood because you very rarely see violence over drugs in the wealthy area of town.
And why would there be? The wealthy don't have to compete against each other for access to drugs, drug money, drug markets, etc. Hell, they have jobs as it is. They (we?) just do drugs for fun.
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The reason for minorities committing more crime is a very deep issue. I said it earlier but its war on drugs, welfare, public education, some of the culture (which some of that comes from the other areas) and many other things.
This is about as succinct an explanation as one can have for such a complex issue.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:43 pm to Agforlife
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Agforlife
I actually appreciated your perspective, my man
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
One of the biggest problems I saw was young AA kids that were in there because it was actually safer for them at home when they got out. I heard countless stories of the threats and violence they faced by trying to live right. Sadly even some of the toughest people in the world can be beaten into submission. It really is a problem that can only be fixed from the inside of the communities.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:21 pm to Carolina Tide
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It is more of a poverty/socioeconomic issue than it is race. If you had place any common black criminal and had taken him out of the ghetto when he was young, I guarentee you that he would be a productive member of society. It's all about dealing with the hand that life gave you. Some people just deal with it the wrong way.
True. I think the bigger question to ask isn't about the crime rate among minorities..but rather why do minorities tend to have larger percentages living below the poverty level? They have the same access to education and opportunity as white people in this country nowadays.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:22 pm to UMTigerRebel
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I already know deltaland believes women should be in the home and not in the workforce
Link?
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but I get the feeling he'd also be perfectly fine with Jim Crow laws still being in effect.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:32 pm to DCRebel
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What the frick does that have to do with me or my opinions, either the ones I espouse or the ones that you presume me to espouse?
It has everything to do with you and your opinions and where you would undoubtedly try to take this thread if left unchecked. Your vocal support for the ACA, despite it being frickING COLOSSAL FAILURE, on the PoliBoard and your absurd position on minimum wage on THIS BOARD leads me to believe you're nothing more than an elitist hack who doesn't give a frick about the black community, but wants everybody to think he does.
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Oh, and cute gif. You need to grow the frick up. You're not nearly as clever as you think you are.
I'm every bit as clever as I think I am, and twice as clever as you think I think I am
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All you did was make a bunch of assumptions about my opinions and positions and then attack them. It's classic strawman bullshite. It's sad that people ate it up, but they did. Whatever.
You make more strawman arguments than any poster on this board, please go check that Fast Food Strike thread if you're having a selective memory lapse.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:34 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Vols&Shaft83
So you're saying that if you take a kid who's around 5 or 6, and put in some of the nicest neighborhoods and the best schools, that he'd still grow up to become a criminal?
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