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re: What Common Core is teaching kids - nsfw? you be the judge
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:02 am to Duke
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:02 am to Duke
Sure. But teaching sex, which is value intrinsic, without being able to teach values (which the public education system doesn't want to do unless it's a progressive cause célèbre) is a fool's errand.
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:05 am to UMTigerRebel
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Let's look at the southern states teen pregnancy rates, and we'll see how well abstinence only education is working.
Where is abstinence only education taught? A lot of programs that are labeled "abstinence only" aren't really.
In addition, viewing the education program in a vacuum, as if no other cultural or social factors are part of the equation, is a ridiculous measure.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:05 am to the808bass
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teaching sex, which is value intrinsic, without being able to teach values (which the public education system doesn't want to do unless it's a progressive cause célèbre) is a fool's errand.
I don't totally disagree.
The drum I've been beating is about having society stop being so uptight about sex. So more parents will be able to get to the values without the shame and awkwardness of discussing sex.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:06 am to Duke
I'm with you there.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:08 am to the808bass
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Where is abstinence only education taught? A lot of programs that are labeled "abstinence only" aren't really.
Every private school in MS. Hell, many of them will kick you out if you get pregnant or get a girl pregnant.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:10 am to UMRealist
Oh. Private schools. Gotcha.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:12 am to the808bass
Idk how they are in other parts of the country, but the private schools in MS are such a sham.
"Hey come to our school where we'll charge you double what it cost to go to a 4 yr college. You'll learn exactly the same curriculum that is taught at public schools except you'll probably be taught by a coach or someone's mom that is filling in for the year while we find a replacement teacher."
"Hey come to our school where we'll charge you double what it cost to go to a 4 yr college. You'll learn exactly the same curriculum that is taught at public schools except you'll probably be taught by a coach or someone's mom that is filling in for the year while we find a replacement teacher."
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:13 am to the808bass
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Where is abstinence only education taught?
My church I went to growing up did. Luckily I had parents that told me it was BS.
Abstinence was also the general theme of the sex ed classes in my public high school. It wasn't an abstinence-only, but it was heavily tilted that way. Hey, you definitely shouldn't do this, but if you do use a condom or you might get warts.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:15 am to the808bass
So what is the solution for parents who don't care about teaching values or teaching their kids about sex? I know it shouldn't be the government's responsibility, but how many young, single mothers on government assistance come from this type of situation?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:19 am to UMRealist
a lot of private schools in la teach the something.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:22 am to UMRealist
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Idk how they are in other parts of the country, but the private schools in MS are such a sham.
My daughter's school is amazing. But I'm sure it's not the norm. And they have phenomenal teachers and better facilities and technology than many public schools.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:22 am to heartbreakTiger
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the something.
What is this?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:23 am to The Spleen
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My church I went to growing up did. Luckily I had parents that told me it was BS.
Good thing your parents saved you from abstinence.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:25 am to the808bass
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Good thing your parents saved you from abstinence.
Indeed. I had fun.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:25 am to UMRealist
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"Hey come to our school where we'll charge you double what it cost to go to a 4 yr college. You'll learn exactly the same curriculum that is taught at public schools except you'll probably be taught by a coach or someone's mom that is filling in for the year while we find a replacement teacher."
Not for me. Any coach who may have taught a subject was required to at least have a Masters in their subject. A good portion of my teachers were PhDs as well. Those guys made us work.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:26 am to the808bass
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My daughter's school is amazing.
There are a handful (maybe 3-4?) school here that are really exceptional.
St. Andrews is a top 30 school nationwide I believe
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:26 am to UMTigerRebel
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So what is the solution for parents who don't care about teaching values or teaching their kids about sex? I know it shouldn't be the government's responsibility, but how many young, single mothers on government assistance come from this type of situation?
People perform down to expectations. If you feed all the kids breakfast at school, many families who previously fed their kids at home then have the school feed their kids breakfast. Start offering dinner and the same thing will happen.
I feel that the same thing has happened with sex ed. The schools do it for the parents who weren't involved and may have been the minority of parents at the time. Now it's viewed as the school's job. So more parents allow the schools to assume the primary role of sex educator.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:27 am to The Spleen
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Indeed. I had fun.
There's always some fun to be had.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:33 am to the808bass
I just don't see sex education as the job of public education. Like 808bass said, it's a value.
As for parental education, its okay to teach your kids to be abstinent and make them understand why. The world says America is too uptight about sex. But what if everyone is actually just too loose about sex? It has major risks and dangers, condoms or not.
As for parental education, its okay to teach your kids to be abstinent and make them understand why. The world says America is too uptight about sex. But what if everyone is actually just too loose about sex? It has major risks and dangers, condoms or not.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:35 am to the808bass
According to this, Mississippi and New Mexico don't require sex ed to be taught at all in schools, and it seems the parents haven't picked up the slack.
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The two states with the highest rates of teen pregnancies are Mississippi and New Mexico. Neither state requires that sex ed be taught in schools. Mississippi law stipulates that when sexual education is taught, that abstinence be the main method of contraception proscribed by educators, whereas New Mexico has no rules about reproductive health criteria at all.
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