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Some perspective on the Phil Robertson Issue
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:24 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:24 am
Remember when the Dixie Chicks made an anti-Bush comment and conservative America issued a fatwa on their brand? Hundreds of country radio stations stopped playing their music, there were even demonstrations where people would get together and destroy their Dixie Chicks CD's.
In an interview Bush said:
I personally know some out there who boycotted them for being open about their beliefs who are now in disbelief that a TV Station would suspend Phil. I just feel there may be a bit of hypocrisy among some who are vilifying A&E right now. Thoughts?
In an interview Bush said:
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The Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. They can say what they want to say ... they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out ... Freedom is a two-way street ... I don't really care what the Dixie Chicks said. I want to do what I think is right for the American people, and if some singers or Hollywood stars feel like speaking out, that's fine. That's the great thing about America.
I personally know some out there who boycotted them for being open about their beliefs who are now in disbelief that a TV Station would suspend Phil. I just feel there may be a bit of hypocrisy among some who are vilifying A&E right now. Thoughts?
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:18 am to jbond
The Dixie chicks comments hit home more for most Americans because if the time that they were said, right after 9/11. Phil was also baited into making his comments, the DC comments seemed more unprovoked if I remember correctly. I understand what you're saying but this is how I see te two situations compared to one another
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:09 am to jbond
There's a pretty big difference here when it comes "offended" parties though...... W obviously didn't care and said the can say whatever they want, it's a free country. The gay/les community is acting completely opposite. They want Duck Dynasty off the air and are trying to ruin them.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:20 am to TideJoe
First of all, I have no problem with Phil. People can say whatever they want, but,
There's not that big of a difference. People were calling for the Dixie Chicks heads too, and they were pulled from many country music stations. I had no problem with that either. You can say what you want, but need to realize there may be public backlash when you do.
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There's a pretty big difference here when it comes "offended" parties though
There's not that big of a difference. People were calling for the Dixie Chicks heads too, and they were pulled from many country music stations. I had no problem with that either. You can say what you want, but need to realize there may be public backlash when you do.
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Country stations across the United States have pulled the Chicks from playlists following reports that lead singer Natalie Maines said in a concert in London earlier this week that she was "ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."
Station managers said their decisions were prompted by calls from irate listeners who thought criticism of the president was unpatriotic.
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One station in Kansas City, Missouri held a Dixie "chicken toss" party Friday morning, where Chick critics were encouraged to dump the group's tapes, CDs and concert tickets into trash cans.
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:31 am to jbond
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Thoughts
While I understand your sentiment...
The difference in this is that the Dixie Chicks record label did not drop them. The people just boycotted their product.
Here, PR has been suspended for an honest opinion outside the show. Let the customers speak to whether or not he should still be profitable, not political correctness.
Honestly. If he had been on The Jesus Network and came out in support of Gays and they suspended him from the show for saying something in conflict with what the network believed? wouldn't people in the opposite side feel the same way?
And I know I'll catch flack for this.... 41 was a classy guy. Made big mistakes (huge) while in office but you have never seen that guy come out and bad mouth the people who did things like what the Dixie Chicks did.
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:08 am to jbond
I still can't believe people care so much about it either way.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:09 am to jbond
Yes, it is a great example of hypocrisy.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:12 am to 3nOut
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The difference in this is that the Dixie Chicks record label did not drop them. The people just boycotted their product.
The record label may not have dropped them, but they were "suspended" from many radio stations. Also, new episodes with Phil will be aired in January, and none of the merchandise featuring Phil has been pulled from the shelves.
The network is probably just waiting for all of this to die down, then it will be business as usual with Phil continuing to be on DD.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:24 am to UMTigerRebel
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The record label may not have dropped them, but they were "suspended" from many radio stations.
At the behest of customers. Not because they were suspended by the radio stations or record labels.
I bet you a cold beer that the market (people complaining to A&E either way) is on the Commander's side.
At the end of the day I hope both A&E and the DD guys stick to their guns and have to part ways and political correctness gets the finger.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:49 am to 3nOut
So you would have defended the Dixie Chicks had they been dropped from their record label?
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:01 am to UMTigerRebel
I would have been ok with the DCs being dropped from their label just like I'm ok with A&E dropping this Phil guy.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:01 am to UMTigerRebel
No. I think the record label had the right to do that if they had wished just like A&E does and would not fault them for it if they did drop the show.
That being said. DD's fan base is remaining fiercely loyal (most of which for the wrong reasons) while the DC's fan base is who turned on them, not the label.
That being said. DD's fan base is remaining fiercely loyal (most of which for the wrong reasons) while the DC's fan base is who turned on them, not the label.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:24 am to 3nOut
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No. I think the record label had the right to do that if they had wished just like A&E does and would not fault them for it if they did drop the show.
That being said. DD's fan base is remaining fiercely loyal (most of which for the wrong reasons) while the DC's fan base is who turned on them, not the label.
You and I have found something on which to agree.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:38 am to jbond
First of all, this is not an "issue," IMO 
Just celebrity gossip.
Secondly, OP really did compare apples to oranges with these two situations. And for the record, I didn't give a frick what the Dixie Chicks had to say then or now. If I heard something of theirs I liked, I listened to it.
Just celebrity gossip. Secondly, OP really did compare apples to oranges with these two situations. And for the record, I didn't give a frick what the Dixie Chicks had to say then or now. If I heard something of theirs I liked, I listened to it.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
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First of all, this is not an "issue," IMO Just celebrity gossip.
Secondly, OP really did compare apples to oranges with these two situations. And for the record, I didn't give a frick what the Dixie Chicks had to say then or now. If I heard something of theirs I liked, I listened to it.
I probably would not be able to watch a movie if I felt the need that all of the actors and directors had to have the same political views as me.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:45 am to BloodSweat&Beers
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I probably would not be able to watch a movie if I felt the need that all of the actors and directors had to have the same political views as me.
Exactly. I judge my entertainment on whether it..........entertains me. Crazy, right?
Yeah, it's kinda cool/nice/validating/whatever-you-wanna-call it if your entertainment personalities share your views, but I honestly don't go out of my way to see that they do one way or the other.
Just listen to music.
Watch movies/TV.
Watch sports.
Without trying to elevate (or denigrate) the protagonists.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:27 am to TbirdSpur2010
Perhaps a better, more recent, comparison would be Martin Bashir. I didn't see the same talking heads from the right come to his defense like they have for Robertson. I saw a couple rejoicing that he lost his job though.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:34 am to BloodSweat&Beers
Freedom Fries
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:42 am to jbond
I just read the complete GQ article. It's pretty good. I think it's clear that Phil feels bad for gays just like feeling sorry for a drug addict - they are lost in his mind. You may think that's stupid, but it's not gay bashing. The self appointed gay rights champions are becoming as bad as the race baiters of 10 years ago.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:48 am to Aux Arc
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The self appointed gay rights champions are becoming as bad as the race baiters of 10 years ago.
Yeah, but the race baiters haven't really gone anywhere, just have some competition now
And I'm not blameless on that front, either. I do it for laughs, though.
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