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re: Quotes from scientists supporting the cancer fraud.

Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:15 pm to
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“Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud, and that the major cancer research organisations are derelict in their duties to the people who support them.”


There is a difference between those doing cancer research and those doing fundraising for cancer research. Learn the difference.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:36 pm to
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There is a difference between those doing cancer research and those doing fundraising for cancer research. Learn the difference.



That was a quote from a scientist, so maybe he should learn the difference?

And don't you suspect that those funding cancer research decide the parameters ect?

Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:49 pm to
IF a pharmaceutical company actually came out with a cure or vaccine for cancer. They would need to charge more than the world could afford to pay to make up for the loss of 100's of billions of dollars in profits each year.

Why on earth would they reveal it?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:51 pm to
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I don't think the human body can survive in an alkaline environment either


For a regular person it's about balancing PH with alkaline foods, it's not about creating a fully alkaline environment, it's about reducing the level of acidity in the body to healthier levels, which would reduce the chance of getting cancer -- something we really don't hear about from our health professionals.

It's one of the big reasons it's recommended to start your day with lemon water.

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a cure for cancer would reap MASSIVE rewards on the short term for the finder.


Same logic would go for an alternative fuel -- which we know is possibly, but it hasn't happened.

It hasn't because the system and everything it touches benefits, it's so vast and expansive it's impossible to break, same with cancer.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted by rootisback
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 5:55 pm to
ITs all their fault!
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:19 pm to
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For a regular person it's about balancing PH with alkaline foods, it's not about creating a fully alkaline environment, it's about reducing the level of acidity in the body to healthier levels, which would reduce the chance of getting cancer -- something we really don't hear about from our health professionals.

It's one of the big reasons it's recommended to start your day with lemon water.


You have no idea what the frick you are talking about. The pH in your body has to stay relatively constant or you will fricking die.

It is balanced by your respiratory rate and kidneys. Adjusting acidity in your diet will impact the pH of your urine.


edit: Also, lemons are acidic. Why is wanting to alkalize your body a big reason a lemon with water is recommended in the morning?
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4272 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:10 pm to
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let us know when you work for one of the world's largest curers of cancer, that will actually be impressive and worthy of bragging on.



Not my intention. Trying to make a funny about him spilling the beans on the world's greatest con-job (in his head).
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:26 pm to
Just curious.

If you were diagnosed with cancer, what course of treatment would you seek?

Also, if this course of treatment didn't work and the cancer metastasized would you be upset that you didn't choose the alternate treatment?

I always wonder what I would do if faced with actual cancer. I tend to think I would take my chances with modern medicine because if that other stuff didn't work I'd feel like I made a really shitty decision. If modern medicine failed then I would probably be desperate to try alternative medicines.

That would be a difficult thing to deal with, obviously.

frick tCancer.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Tiguar
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:41 pm to
My first wife, a nurse practitioner in oncology, used to preach this to me all the time.

She says, to this day, that it is all just a big money-making scam.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:24 pm to
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it is all just a big money-making scam.
What isn't?
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:30 pm to
Population control?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:40 pm to
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My first wife, a nurse practitioner in oncology, used to preach this to me all the time. She says, to this day, that it is all just a big money-making scam.


So she gave her paychecks back, I assume.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5381 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:31 am to
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For a regular person it's about balancing PH with alkaline foods, it's not about creating a fully alkaline environment, it's about reducing the level of acidity in the body to healthier levels, which would reduce the chance of getting cancer -- something we really don't hear about from our health professionals.

It's one of the big reasons it's recommended to start your day with lemon water.
you do at least realize you have no clue what you're talking about, correct? Change your pH much and cancer will be the least of your worries.

Eating alkaline foods won't do anything from a pH standpoint except with your urine like Tiguar mentioned already. #1 - it won't neutralize stomach acid enough to get to an alkaline pH. #2 - your blood is already slightly alkaline (unless you're actively dying). That would be why you don't hear about it from health professionals or anyone who has a basic understanding of physiology.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 1:08 am
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:58 am to
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it's about reducing the level of acidity in the body to healthier levels,


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recommended to start your day with lemon water.


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reducing the level of acidity


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lemon water


So if you've got it all figured out, why don't you go to med school and become a doctor? Seems like you could make a lot of money and help a lot of people with your obvious cures you've discovered. If they are real, why aren't you out selling them?

There are people out there developing new ways to treat and cure cancer. You just aren't one of them.

LINK

Side note: Peptides as a cancer cure has been something the FDA has tried very hard to ban, not because it doesn't make money (it does, it makes shite tons) but because the FDA is supported by major pharma through 'donations' and makes it a point to keep small independent labs from getting approval for drugs that would hurt the larger companies. If you won't sell out, they won't let you develop your drug. Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski has been peddling peptides in the states for decades, and after he refused to sell his patents, the FDA tried to shut him down. Now china, unhindered by our terrible government (who'd have thought that 20 years ago?) is actively pursuing this.

Big pharma doesn't want to hold treatment back from you, it just wants to protect its market share. This happens in EVERY industry, its just that the FDA stacks the deck very far in favor of established corporations.

But yay socialism! The federal government is so benevolent, I pay my taxes so they can stagnate growth in industry sectors by picking winners and losers. Hooray Im-ex bank! Hooray agriculture subsidies! We need to give them more power so they can make it more fair.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 7:07 am
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:24 am to
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It is balanced by your respiratory rate and kidneys. Adjusting acidity in your diet will impact the pH of your urine.



Our diets are too acidic.

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edit: Also, lemons are acidic.


No. It's alkaline when it's metabolized.

Please. It's shocking that people like you say things without any knowledge at all on an issue.

A quick google search about lemons neutralizing acidity will give you plenty to look at.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:31 am to
So if I eat lots of lemons, I won't get cancer?
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:37 am to
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So if I eat lots of lemons, I won't get cancer?


I'm about to pick up a bundle of lemons and start back smoking today
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:41 am to
Your body's pH will fluctuate between around 7.35 and 7.45. What you eat won't change that over the long haul. It's not shocking anymore how often you're absolutely and incontrovertibly wrong.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
36554 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:49 am to
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My first wife, a nurse practitioner in oncology, used to preach this to me all the time. She says, to this day, that it is all just a big money-making scam.



So she gave her paychecks back, I assume.


You make a critical point.

Corruption (of all types) continues, in part, because people want to continue to collect a paycheck.
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