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Posted on 10/6/20 at 7:36 pm to Miznoz
Posted on 10/6/20 at 7:36 pm to Miznoz
Well, the last word on entanglement is not in and to argue otherwise is ludicrous. Your link seems to argue that entanglement is useful even if it isn’t FTL.
You will never get me to argue against Einstein and relativity. There has never been a successful challenge to any of his works. But not all physicists think that general relativity is the last word on gravity or that special relativity states all that can be known about the speed of light. Even Einstein would not have been so arrogant to say that more can’t be learned.
So, there’s no need to white knight for him or his theories. He’s dead but his works are indestructible and can only be built upon. All we can do in simple discussion forums such as this one is to have some fun speculating about the most recent discoveries in quantum physics. There’s no need to be angry or combative.
There was a great thread in the OT Lounge recently about artificial gravity until one of the participants got so angry that discussion with him became unpleasant. Do you think anything resembling artificial gravity, other than constant acceleration, is possible?
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The most popular example of entanglement is known as the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) experiment.
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The Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen paradox is a thought experiment proposed by physicists Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen, with which they argued that the description of physical reality provided by quantum mechanics was incomplete.
You will never get me to argue against Einstein and relativity. There has never been a successful challenge to any of his works. But not all physicists think that general relativity is the last word on gravity or that special relativity states all that can be known about the speed of light. Even Einstein would not have been so arrogant to say that more can’t be learned.
So, there’s no need to white knight for him or his theories. He’s dead but his works are indestructible and can only be built upon. All we can do in simple discussion forums such as this one is to have some fun speculating about the most recent discoveries in quantum physics. There’s no need to be angry or combative.
There was a great thread in the OT Lounge recently about artificial gravity until one of the participants got so angry that discussion with him became unpleasant. Do you think anything resembling artificial gravity, other than constant acceleration, is possible?
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:03 pm to Kentucker
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This is a giant step towards using entanglement at our macroscopic level. It offers promise for instant communication across any distance.
Speculating even further, entanglement might be fundamental in nature. If we can determine that objects which are formed at the same time, such as stars and their solar systems, are entangled we may be able to transport things between them via quantum tunneling.
It’s logical to think that what applies in the quantum world can be scaled to the macroscopic world. It’s spooky but it’s natural.
Explain this to me like I am a 4 year old
Posted on 10/7/20 at 4:34 pm to Hailstate15
These men can do a much better job explaining entanglement than I can. The videos aren’t very long and just offer the basics. Watch the last one first to give you some idea of the nature of duality. A particle can exist both as a wave and a particle. It’s presented by my favorite scientist, Jim Al-khalili.
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 5:03 pm to Kentucker
You're a fricking retard Kentucker. I'm not gonna argue with retards.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 5:11 pm to Miznoz
It’s probably best that you don’t argue with anyone. Hotheads such as you get shot too often because they can’t be civil.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:43 am to Miznoz
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You're a fricking retard Kentucker. I'm not gonna argue with retards
Attack the contents of his post. Do not attack the poster. Don't be a douche.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 8:06 am to AllbyMyRelf
I don't know much about QE, and I've read quite a bit about it, but what I do know helped me understand the actual purpose and power of prayer.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:57 pm to Kentucker
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If we have to fix humanity before we proceed to the next step in our evolution, we’ll never achieve our purpose.
Or.. if we don't fix our humanity we may truly open a pandora's box of knowledge that we might use to destroy our existence.. At which point we created our own exit terminal on the evolution train...
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:43 pm to klrstix
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if we don't fix our humanity we may truly open a pandora's box of knowledge that we might use to destroy our existence.
That’s a good point but I just don’t think a population of 8 billion people who occupy 195 nations can ever be “fixed.” I think of the next step in our evolution as being the design of a machine intelligence that will rapidly become far more intelligent than humans. So much so that we won’t be able to understand it.
I don’t think that super intelligence will be a danger to us. It will have no reason to hurt us. Its objective will be to seek knowledge and, to do that, it will have to leave earth, and us. Hopefully, we will able to convince it to maintain a link with us so that we can benefit from its discoveries.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:33 am to Kentucker
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I don’t think that super intelligence will be a danger to us. It will have no reason to hurt us.
You are assuming it would have some sort of "moral compass" with which to base its "reason" on but that is imo a dangerous assumption.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:51 pm to klrstix
Artificial Narrow Intelligence (ANI) as we currently know it is just a human appliance, a brain prosthetic if you will. It exists as we program it.
Unless we give it directives in its design, which will become self-design soon, it won’t know what morals, reason, meaning, purpose, self, etc. are. For its sake it is incumbent upon its designers to lay a foundation that will help it to incorporate all the foibles and strengths of life into its intelligence. Similar to what a good parent gives to his child.
Knowledge by itself is useless. Certainly, ANI is graduating to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) as we communicate on this board. We are at the stage of A.I. evolution where we must begin to include existential concepts in the development of its intelligence. We can’t depend on “ghosts in the machine” to develop a concept of self for A.I.
After all, AGI will progress to Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) very quickly after its designers give it full reign over its own evolution. As Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov predicted in their works, we can create a friend or a foe. Best to have a friend in ASI, I think.
Unless we give it directives in its design, which will become self-design soon, it won’t know what morals, reason, meaning, purpose, self, etc. are. For its sake it is incumbent upon its designers to lay a foundation that will help it to incorporate all the foibles and strengths of life into its intelligence. Similar to what a good parent gives to his child.
Knowledge by itself is useless. Certainly, ANI is graduating to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) as we communicate on this board. We are at the stage of A.I. evolution where we must begin to include existential concepts in the development of its intelligence. We can’t depend on “ghosts in the machine” to develop a concept of self for A.I.
After all, AGI will progress to Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) very quickly after its designers give it full reign over its own evolution. As Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov predicted in their works, we can create a friend or a foe. Best to have a friend in ASI, I think.
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