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Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:30 pm to TidenUP
Lol. Probably better for him with more people there. At least he's still alive.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:30 pm to TidenUP
Lol. Probably better for him with more people there. At least he's still alive.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:30 pm to TidenUP
Lol. Probably better for him with more people there. At least he's still alive.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:18 pm to CCTider
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there was the other auburn fan who was against race mixing
Do beliefs like these make one a racist?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:49 pm to Robert Goulet
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Do beliefs like these make one a racist?
It is racial discrimination.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:51 pm to TidenUP
Potential FIL needed more time to perfect the murder plan 
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:04 pm to dwgsfrlife7673
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hopefully. I think he will be ok hopefully.
OP is scared.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:12 pm to Robert Goulet
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Do beliefs like these make one a racist
I'd say so, though not everyone will agree. I'd think race is very insignificant factor in who a person is. I think socioeconomic status is s much greater factor. Of course, I've known people from the hood that were highly educated and I got along great with. I've also known rich kids that act like hoodrats.
But cultural differences play a greater role than anything, imo. The more diverse a community, the more similar people of different races tend to behave. Once again, there are plenty of exceptions. But the color of your skin doesn't have any effect on your personality.
If anything, in rural areas, more mixing needs to be done to diversify the gene pool. If it gets too similar.... Well, just look at people in the Appalachians. They are about as ugly as it gets.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:28 pm to CCTider
Good answer. It is hard for me to organize my thoughts on it and I personally would not call it racist, but as Tbird pointed out, it is discriminatory even if it isn't meant maliciously. People usually cloister themselves off by race/ethnicity as a form of de facto segregation. That is just the reality of things.
I think the culture aspect is much more important like you pointed out. It seems the color of someone's skin doest have an effect because we are taught to act a certain way based on skin color, but I understand what you mean. All races are "expected" to act a certain way.
Ill stop rambling, was just curious what others' thoughts were. I am glad the OP is happy and I hope the future FIL learns how to deal with whatever prejudices he has.
I think the culture aspect is much more important like you pointed out. It seems the color of someone's skin doest have an effect because we are taught to act a certain way based on skin color, but I understand what you mean. All races are "expected" to act a certain way.
Ill stop rambling, was just curious what others' thoughts were. I am glad the OP is happy and I hope the future FIL learns how to deal with whatever prejudices he has.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 7:42 pm to CCTider
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race is very insignificant factor in who a person is.
Absolutely 100% correct, IMO.
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cultural differences play a greater role than anything, imo. The more diverse a community, the more similar people of different races tend to behave. Once again, there are plenty of exceptions. But the color of your skin doesn't have any effect on your personality.
This as well
I'll say this for interracial couples: the ones that flourish best are the ones where after awhile the novelty (for lack of a better word) wears off for the people involved. After awhile much more substantial issues confront those who are truly a couple--the same issues any other couple faces.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:17 am to TbirdSpur2010
have we all been catfished (or whatever the equivalent term would be) by this guy? he's probably redheaded and gay.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:50 am to Robert Goulet
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Do beliefs like these make one a racist?
By definition I would say probably. But it isn't always meanspirited. I know a lot of people, particularly older people who worried about the way the child of mixed marriages would be treated and it made them concerned. And back in the day that was definitely an issue.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:22 am to GnashRebel
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By definition I would say probably. But it isn't always meanspirited. I know a lot of people, particularly older people who worried about the way the child of mixed marriages would be treated and it made them concerned. And back in the day that was definitely an issue.
I agree with it not always being mean spirited, but ignorance and/or fear. My grandparents on one side lived in Atlanta. My dad grew up on in East Point. They were part of the Atlanta white flight, and eventually ended up in Sharpsberg. They never said anything bad about black people in front of me. But when neighborhood became mixed, they left. I think it arse fear of the uncertain, which ese common in most big cities where large suburbs developed.
Of course, on my other side, I had a great grandmother who was absurdly progressive for being born in the 1910s. She'd not only go to the Mobile black parade, but usually would dance with a couple black guys half her age, and drink a couple beers. She was probably the only Springhill Mobilian her age that actually watched and loved Mamga.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:03 pm to piggilicious
Probably
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:37 pm to GnashRebel
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By definition I would say probably. But it isn't always meanspirited. I know a lot of people, particularly older people who worried about the way the child of mixed marriages would be treated and it made them concerned. And back in the day that was definitely an issue.
I do not think it is racist by definition, but certainly could be racist in some (maybe most) situations. Imagine if someone was black and was mistreated their whole life by white people, I would think they would have a pretty good reason not to want their child to marry a white person. It isn't a condemnation of an entire race, but it is rational to go off your own life experiences imo.
When Ali died I saw a video where he extolled the virtues of same-race marriages and I guess some would call that racist, but it seems he had some decent points that were based more off of culture/sub-culture that coincide with race/ethnicity.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:11 pm to Robert Goulet
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Imagine if someone was black and was mistreated their whole life by white people, I would think they would have a pretty good reason not to want their child to marry a white person.
Except it's NOT a "good reason." It's perpetuating the same closed-minded thinking that caused their troubles to begin with. At some point, the high road must be taken.
Heard the same bullshite from some of my extended family when they heard I was going to marry who did.
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It isn't a condemnation of an entire race, but it is rational to go off your own life experiences imo.
If the race of a potential spouse is the only or biggest hangup, that IS a condemnation of that ethnicity. In some form or another, you think that the color of someone's skin or their ancestral line renders them unsuitable to be a part of your family. That is an inherently racist lone of thought, no matter how you slice it.
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When Ali died I saw a video where he extolled the virtues of same-race marriages and I guess some would call that racist
He didn't extol the virtues of interracial marriage--he condemned interracial marriage.
And it was profoundly racist.
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it seems he had some decent points that were based more off of culture/sub-culture that coincide with race/ethnicity.
He had no decent points whatsoever. Absolutely none.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:29 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Except it's NOT a "good reason." It's perpetuating the same closed-minded thinking that caused their troubles to begin with. At some point, the high road must be taken.
It seems like using one's own life experience with overwhelming evidence would be a good reason, I guess some disagree.
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If the race of a potential spouse is the only or biggest hangup, that IS a condemnation of that ethnicity. I
Agree
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And it was profoundly racist.
Perhaps some of his message was racist, but not all.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:43 pm to Robert Goulet
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using one's own life experience with overwhelming evidence would be a good reason
Nope. Especially when it's all anecdotal. Condemning an entire race based on the limited sample size of those with whom you've interacted is indeed racist.
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Perhaps some of his message was racist, but not all.
"Perhaps"? Nope.
What part wasn't racist in your opinion? Explain. You're sounding like an apologist for a remarkably divisive stance.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Nope. Especially when it's all anecdotal. Condemning an entire race based on the limited sample size of those with whom you've interacted is indeed racist.
I am not talking about condemning an entire race, I am talking about profiling in the denotative sense. Do you not do this based on your experiences?
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What part wasn't racist in your opinion?
He spoke specifically of culture where I believe has a point. He seems to think black people are good looking, nothing wrong with that. If I am not attracted to black women, that isn't wrong. I agree that the rest of the interview is bad.
Look, I have no problem with mixed-race marriages or mixed-culture marriages. I think there is more value in how someone thinks than how they look. The reason I originally posed a question itt was because I don't feel someone is automatically racist because they are cautious of this sort of thing, although I am fully aware that is regularly a driving factor. These days it seems like anyone who disagrees is labeled a racist or bigot or whatever (not directed at you).
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 3:07 pm
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