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re: OSU Child Molester just quit the team hours before Super Regional
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:48 pm to dcbl
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:48 pm to dcbl
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Odds are he will if given the chance
But even if he doesn't, he should have been sent out prison anyway
Yeah not sure what's right on pedo but feels like we got it wrong
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:48 pm to msutiger
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You're not overreacting at all
There is no over reaction to a child molester
I believe the death penalty is the best answer
At a minimum, life in prison
15 is old enough to know better
Should have been charged as an adult
If he came to play for the Barons, people would stop buying tickets and advertisers would bail
This is true just about everywhere
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:49 pm to Scruffy
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I am not defending him. He was punished per the legal system. He served the sentence that was demanded of him by the legal system.
If we are unable to allow felons back into society after their fulfill their punishments, what is the point of the punishment to begin with?
Why even try to rehabilitate anyone if that is the case?
Jesus Christ, folks.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:49 pm to Scruffy
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:So, destroy his future over that then?
You know why this all broke don't you? He didn't follow the conditions of his punishment to begin with.
I'm just trying to grasp where everyone's idea of rehabilitation ends and blacklisted from everything and life long punishment begins.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:51 pm to Scruffy
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destroy his future over that then
I didn't fistfrick a toddler. He did. Sorry but I bear no responsibility for this piece of shite's life.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:51 pm to SillyAg
quote:It is an absolutely valid question. Why even try to rehab these people if they are unable to live normal lives afterwards?
Jesus Christ, folks.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:52 pm to SillyAg
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I didn't fistfrick a toddler. He did. Sorry but I bear no responsibility for this piece of shite's life.
Ok...
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:53 pm to Scruffy
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So, destroy his future over that then?
I'm just trying to grasp where everyone's idea of rehabilitation ends and blacklisted from everything and life long punishment begins.
He got off incredibly easy compared to what someone would get hit with in this region of the country if they were caught molesting a 4-6 year old.
He destroyed his own future by not adhering to quite possibly the easiest part of his sentence to begin with. A once a year check in with law enforcement. Whether you like it or not, because of the higher rate of recidivism with untreated/untracked sex offenders than other crimes that is something he is obligated to do. That is part of the rehabilitation that was allowing him to continue functioning as a part of regular society.
He obviously didn't care enough about the situation to hold to something as simple as that.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:I don't disagree with that.
He destroyed his own future by not adhering to quite possibly the easiest part of his sentence to begin with. A once a year check in with law enforcement. Whether you like it or not, because of the higher rate of recidivism with untreated/untracked sex offenders than other crimes that is something he is obligated to do.
I disagree with the idea that he should be blacklisted from everything and should be kicked off the team because of it.
He should face the legal ramifications of said actions.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
I know a victim of child abuse by their cousin and they still are haunted by it.Heimlich should have to pay her restitution.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 6:58 pm to Scruffy
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It is an absolutely valid question. Why even try to rehab these people if they are unable to live normal lives afterwards?
Here is my valid answer, if you murder someone or molest a child, you should be put to death
My opinion, at a minimum, you should never get out of prison
Steal a car? Rob a store?
Fine, I am all about 2nd chances and rehabilitation
He raped a toddler fairly recently
eta - ra to move to SEC OT or poli board on TD
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:01 pm to Scruffy
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I disagree with the idea that he should be blacklisted from everything and should be kicked off the team because of it.
He should face the legal ramifications of said actions.
I think the larger issue is that the University likely does not have a policy that prevents him from being on the team as a convicted sex offender. From the article I posted, they likely didn't find out about his registration status until after he started with the University (when they're sent their list of offenders to cross-check with their enrollment lists). I believe the only thing you have to disclose when applying for a school anymore is felony drug convictions because it involves financial aid distribution.
That all said he wasn't kicked off the team anyway. He made the decision to leave because of the public backlash he was likely going to receive. That's his choice. Had he made his annual check in, the records wouldn't even be public at this point. That was also his choice.
Lets not act like he wasn't given ample opportunity to be rehabilitated and allowed to function in society without issue beforehand.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:02 pm to dcbl
quote:I tend to agree. He should have received a much harsher sentence to begin with.
Here is my valid answer, if you murder someone or molest a child, you should be put to death
This guy will likely commit suicide soon, so, that will most likely happen.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Ok, I see all of your points.
Lets not act like he wasn't given ample opportunity to be rehabilitated and allowed to function in society without issue beforehand.
I agree with your stances.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:04 pm to Scruffy
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This guy will likely commit suicide soon,
I had that same thought.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:06 pm to anc
Good, but anyone that had anything to do with recruiting him should be fired immediately.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:09 pm to TT9
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Good, but anyone that had anything to do with recruiting him should be fired immediately.
They likely didn't know. The juveniles files weren't reopened for the public until after he failed to report his status and he was already on the team. And I'd be willing to bet they weren't going to self report that to a coach if they thought it was going to remain a sealed case.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:09 pm to TT9
Oregon State probably knew nothing about this when recruiting him
Posted on 6/9/17 at 7:09 pm to TT9
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Good, but anyone that had anything to do with recruiting him should be fired immediately.
No
Because why should they be punished for not finding a sealed juvenile record?
If they knew? Then yes, fire them
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