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re: Maps of Flawed Sex Ed Requirements

Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:53 pm to
Welcome to small government.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:02 pm to
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I think it's pretty criminal that sex ed isn't available in schools.


This is what I don't get. I believe you believe that, but I don't get it. Is there ONE kid who gets pregnant that doesn't understand how it happened? (12-14 yr olds don't count because sex ed wouldn't have reached them anyway, in case you're really going to respond to this.)

My opinion has nothing at all to do with religion. If school districts want to teach sex ed instead of, e.g., trig, that's their business. But if they don't I sure don't think it is "criminal".
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:03 pm to
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This is what I don't get. I believe you believe that, but I don't get it. Is there ONE kid who gets pregnant that doesn't understand how it happened? (12-14 yr olds don't count because sex ed wouldn't have reached them anyway, in case you're really going to respond to this.)

My opinion has nothing at all to do with religion. If school districts want to teach sex ed instead of, e.g., trig, that's their business. But if they don't I sure don't think it is "criminal".


I would be hard pressed to call it criminal as well. Some feel it ought to be left up to the parents and having a daughter I generally agree with that.

Especially with some of these schools trying to teach this to 9 and 10 year olds.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:27 pm to
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This is what I don't get. I believe you believe that, but I don't get it. Is there ONE kid who gets pregnant that doesn't understand how it happened? (12-14 yr olds don't count because sex ed wouldn't have reached them anyway, in case you're really going to respond to this.)

My opinion has nothing at all to do with religion. If school districts want to teach sex ed instead of, e.g., trig, that's their business. But if they don't I sure don't think it is "criminal".


Criminal was a strong word, but you're incorrect about it not "reaching" 12-14 year olds. That's middle school age. When we had sex ed before it was removed in our district, they started with 5th graders (it was a pretty bland deal that dealt with the functions of the body and was actually a video made by Disney of all things). It was more at that point about understanding how your body works (For girls: why they have periods, For boys: why they have wet dreams) and largely addresses hygiene more than anything. In middle school, the age you mentioned, it progressed into more of a discussion on sexual intercourse and how the body functions during that.

It also didn't replace any curriculum other than a Related Arts class (not core content) for two weeks, most often Health where it really should be taught to begin with, as part of the curriculum but isn't in some districts because of a fundamental belief that teaching children how their body functions leads to sex/sin/etc.

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Is there ONE kid who gets pregnant that doesn't understand how it happened?


You would be surprised at how many young kids, especially middle school aged kids, who don't understand how their bodies function when they have intercourse. Or that they can still contract a STD despite using a condom/birth control. Especially girls. There's a ridiculous amount of misconceptions thrown at them through friends, social networks, etc. regarding sex. I've heard everything from "I was on top, I didn't think I could get pregnant" to "We didn't have sex sex (oral) but I still got herpes. I read that I couldn't get it that way".

I just think it's a huge disservice to kids to not teach them those things. Especially when we know they're not getting it at home, which unfortunately is part of our society at this point.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:30 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:41 pm to
Thanks for the info... I guess. If my youngest of 3 wasn't 22 I'd probably get no sleep tonight. Not that I deserve any.

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You would be surprised at how many young kids, especially middle school aged kids, who don't understand how their bodies function when they have intercourse.


I probably would be surprised but I'm not sure I believe a sex ed class is going to pound that information into those brains. On the other hand, I wondered what the teen pregnancy rate by state looked like...



Births per thousand. Oops. That's a pretty good correlation with the earlier plots. So maybe it is criminal . I'm happier than usual that my kids are mostly grown.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:33 am to
It's also a good correlation with minority populations.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 3:06 am to


Big 3?

Seriously though, I don't recall same sex relations even being a topic in my Sex Ed classes
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:37 am to
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Seriously though, I don't recall same sex relations even being a topic in my Sex Ed classes




I think the teachers knew they wouldn't be able to stop the hysterical laughter from the students if the subject of butt fricking was the class discussion.


I don't remember knowing any gay students in middle school, I'msure they were kept separate from the general population, as they should be.



















Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 6:08 am to
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808 is smarter than you.


Everyone is.
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