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re: Justifiable shooting by police officer?

Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4363 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:26 pm to
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OL. That's great in theory but shite in reality. Once the dude has the metal pipe in hand, force has been fully escalated - there is no process.


I have been in multiple complex incidents that required EOF. Thought does not equal paralysis. Lack of training equals over/under reaction.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61994 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:50 pm to
I take it you're a LEO?


I just hate that a life was lost, but it looks like the officer showed restraint and only fired when the perp was upon him attacking.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:51 pm to
After he swings the first time I pop a cap.
These stupid Poeple need to be thinned out.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:38 pm to
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I'm the last person to defend cops. But if you assault a cop in any way, it's going to be a justifiable shoot.


Does this apply to anyone or just cops?
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4363 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:09 pm to
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I just hate that a life was lost, but it looks like the officer showed restraint and only fired when the perp was upon him attacking


I agree. I support the police but I also believe in constant training.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:03 pm to
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But if you assault a cop in any way, it's going to be a justifiable shoot.


Be careful, they consider assault if your biological reflex moves your arms after they punch you in the face!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135376 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:07 pm to
Don't assault cops.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124904 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:13 pm to
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Does this apply to anyone or just cops?


If a dude hits you with a flagpole, you've got a pretty good chance of getting off on a self-defense claim. But in the real world, it helps a lot when you're a cop.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:54 pm to
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I'm the last person to defend cops. But if you assault a cop in any way, it's going to be a justifiable shoot.



I question many shoots. This shoot was completely justified. Attack a cop like that and there's little, actually no doubt.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Be careful, they consider assault if your biological reflex moves your arms after they punch you in the face!



Trust me. 808 gets that. Having said that, picking up a flag pole and swinging it at a cop is hardly a biological reflex.
Posted by Parabellem
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2013
16 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:48 am to
Look at any police departments use of force model. Heavy handed weapons(batons, Metal Poles) are one below deadly force. Always go one above what the assailant is at. Justifiable shoot no doubt. If he hits him and knocks him out, he has a free Glock to play with.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 7:48 am
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