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re: john kasich Is the best candidate I've seen in my adult life....
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:39 am to vengeanceofrain
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:39 am to vengeanceofrain
We've done that with the one in office. Now it's about to be doubled down on, with whichever takes it.
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:44 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Says a lot about the mood of the people of the United States that a lifelong Democrat is going to win the GOP nomination. The country has shifted left and the establishment conservatives have shifted right. Bad move on their part. The GOP is dead and these neocons killed it
Except for the presidential election, the GOP's been killing it for this entire decade. Not only do they control both the US House and Senate, they now own almost 2/3rds of the state governorships and hold both houses of the state legislature in a majority of the states. They have a trifecta (Gov and both houses) in 24 states as opposed to only 7 for the Democratic party.
If that's dead, I guess alive is winning every single office?
The lifelong Democrat that's going to be the (R) nominee is only going to win because he's viewed as an outsider and he's had the audacity to throw out positions on hot button issues that are even further right than the Republican establishment.
It isn't a revolt against conservative values, it is a revolt against the establishment, political correctness, and all those other things people whisper about but don't dare say out loud out of fear they'll be slapped with some socially taboo label.
You're seeing the same thing in the Democratic primary. Sanders is anti-establishment. He's an unapologetic socialist who says a lot of things that a Democratic candidate isn't supposed to say. From a campaign standpoint, the only differences between him and Trump is that he doesn't have Trump's money or name recognition and the Democratic primary system is strongly weighted to support the establishment candidate.
Edited to add: I don't dispute that Trump's a closet Democrat. I didn't vote for him and will hold my nose if I have to do it in the general election.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:45 am to vengeanceofrain
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it's like every 50 years or so we have to remind ourselves how shitty things can get by putting someone in power who doesn't have a fricking clue what they are doing
We're coming off eight years of that right now.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:54 am to vengeanceofrain
You watch Sean Hannity? Ha ha
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:08 am to vengeanceofrain
Urban Meyer just endorsed Kasich.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:34 am to vengeanceofrain
He wants to invade Libya 
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:20 pm to texag7
Hannity is so bad I can't not watch lol I think the thing with the gop is the narrative doesn't fit
YeaRd of what wrong exactly? What is that Lee has Obama done that's so bad that no other president has done business is great right now people have jobs I've never made this much money in my life honestly not particularly crazy about my health care situation but I mean it is what it is he's not Andrew Johnson so when I hear this stuff about the worst president of all time or eight years of blah blah blah I already know somebody has an agenda was it Clinton boom good no but I don't consider him to be a bad president
YeaRd of what wrong exactly? What is that Lee has Obama done that's so bad that no other president has done business is great right now people have jobs I've never made this much money in my life honestly not particularly crazy about my health care situation but I mean it is what it is he's not Andrew Johnson so when I hear this stuff about the worst president of all time or eight years of blah blah blah I already know somebody has an agenda was it Clinton boom good no but I don't consider him to be a bad president
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:35 pm to vengeanceofrain
He's the only republican I'd vote for TBH
Posted on 3/10/16 at 12:52 pm to vengeanceofrain
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business is great right now people have jobs
Maybe in your industry, but the U6 rate (which is far more accurate than the U3 that's reported) is still around 10%. Further, wage growth over 8 years is the lowest it has been since the middle 1980s and the average household has about the same buying power they did 15 years ago. Nationally, GDP growth has been right at or under 2% for his entire tenure, which again hasn't happened since the end of WW2 and the poverty rate, which declined from 2004-2008 has increased from just over 12% in 2006 to just under 15% in 2015.
The 'recovery' really hasn't been much of one at all and a lot of us feel like the recovery that has occurred has happened in spite of rather than because of the economic policies of the administration.
And by involving himself on what's later been shown to be the wrong side of several racially charged incidents, he's played a big part in setting race relations back 20 years or more.
He's not been Carter bad, but he's absolutely been a bad president.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 3:17 pm to vengeanceofrain
He is the only Republican who doesn't scare the living shite out of me. That's not a compliment.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:45 pm to vengeanceofrain
I agree...sadly everyone is painting him as a warhawk and ignoring his stance on everything else because apparently being willing to work with the other side while maintaining your principles is looked down upon 
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:48 pm to Mullet Flap
Hillary, as an alleged woman, is much more hawkish than Kasich, as women in power typically are.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:18 pm to JustGetItRight
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rom a campaign standpoint, the only differences between him and Trump is that he doesn't have Trump's money or name recognition and the Democratic primary system is strongly weighted to support the establishment candidate.
What a crock...While Bernie was doing his duty as mayor/governor for the state of Vermont, Trump was busy calling for death sentences for the Central Park Five and rolling in his daddy's dough
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:00 am to Mullet Flap
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What a crock...While Bernie was doing his duty as mayor/governor for the state of Vermont, Trump was busy calling for death sentences for the Central Park Five and rolling in his daddy's dough
I'm no Bernie supporter, but this, a whole lot.
I can't say a ton of nice things about Bernie, but from all appearances he's spent his life in service of the public with no intention to get rich. I don't agree with his ideologies, but it seems like there's a pretty stark difference between the two.
Cruz and Bernie share more in common than Trump and Bernie.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:10 am to Mullet Flap
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What a crock...While Bernie was doing his duty as mayor/governor for the state of Vermont, Trump was busy calling for death sentences for the Central Park Five and rolling in his daddy's dough
Not one word of that is in any way related to what you quoted. I in no way compared their platforms, positions, or accomplishments. I compared their campaigns in which both are running and having significant success by openly bucking the established powers in their respective parties and that is 100% true. It is also true that people who do not watch one second of news coverage know Trump's name but not Bernie's, Trump has vastly more money than Bernie, and the (D) super delegate system makes pulling a Trump far less likely in their primary race.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:48 pm to vengeanceofrain
What are you 12?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 9:23 pm to vengeanceofrain
When did you turn 18? Sorry I forgot! Happy birthday!
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:09 am to vengeanceofrain
I don't fully agree with him I'd definitely take him over any of other Rs and Hilary.
Posted on 3/12/16 at 7:31 am to vengeanceofrain
Posted on 3/12/16 at 1:19 pm to TX Tiger
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Ron Paul says hello.
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