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re: Is the Walking Dead starting to suck now?

Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:21 am to
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:21 am to
I think I officially gave up on the Walking Dead tonight. I'll still be forced to watch because I'm part of a watch group, but I'm now officially more there for company than the show.

One question. Is there anything that has happened in the episodes since Beth disappeared that moved anything forward at all? Mika's dead. Who gives a shite, they're minor characters. The hunter dudes with Daryl? They're dead, but nobody knew who the hell they were until after Beth disappeared. Rick's issue with the Hunters? Again, nobody knew who they were.

We're literally in the same place we were back then but now everyone but Tyrese and Carol are all together. Oh, and Tyrese knows Carol was the killer, and even he doesn't give a frick.

What a waste of time.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:25 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:28 am to
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Is there anything that has happened in the episodes since Beth disappeared that moved anything forward at all?

One of the best episodes of the series happened.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:29 am to
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And awhile back people were bitching that Rick was too front and center in every episode

My point exactly.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:30 am
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:29 am to
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One of the best episodes of the series happened.



Which one are you claiming is one of the best? Look at the Flowers?
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:30 am to
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Which one are you claiming is one of the best? Look at the Flowers?

Yep.
Posted by wstorie44
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:30 am to
Yeah lots of who gives a frick if they die people
Its going to be interesting now that there back together and whats gonna happen in there
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:32 am to
As soon as the pig got sick at the beginning of the year, I was like aw geez. We're gonna waste 6 weeks on diseases and antibiotics.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:32 am to
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Which one are you claiming is one of the best? Look at the Flowers?


Uh........YEAH
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:34 am to
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Yep.



I'd almost agree, and it was definitely good, but the entire episode was basically people nobody cares about.

Carol was sent out to pasture and miraculously reappears. Cool, but it's Carol, always a peripheral character. The girls? Yeah, I liked the storyline, but it didn't move anything forward in the whole story.

If that episode and the previous episode was a movie, I'd go pay to see it because the little story that was set up was pretty good and ended in a good way. However, it did absolutely nothing to move the plot forward. It was a pretty good stand alone movie within a boring arse season.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:35 am
Posted by wstorie44
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:38 am to
The one tonight they spent to much time on stupid flashbacks too. I dont care about how rick started planting crops who cares
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:38 am to
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the entire episode was basically people nobody cares about.


Um, given the shady circumstances under which Carol was evicted from the group (and the budding tension in her being the one that killed Tyreese's love interest), a lot of folks did care about that character.

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The girls? Yeah, I liked the storyline, but it didn't move anything forward in the whole story.


Actually, the incident with the girls not only developed their characters to the fullest extent they would go, but it also was the tipping point that prompted Carol to reveal her part in killing the sick prisoners at the prison (not to mention them finally realizing who was feeding walkers rodents and shite).

You don't have to like it, but your claims are off base, IMHO.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:39 am to
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The one tonight they spent to much time on stupid flashbacks too. I dont care about how rick started planting crops who cares


That wasn't the point of the flashbacks.

That was to parallel the docile nature he was attempting to cultivate at the prison with the savage personality he had to re-adopt to regain his sanity and mental position as leader of their group.
Posted by wstorie44
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:42 am to
Yeah when Herschel was teaching him i see that.
guess it did have meaning as he just bite a guys throat out and diced another lol
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:43 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:43 am to
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I'd almost agree, and it was definitely good, but the entire episode was basically people nobody cares about.

Carol's a pretty major character. Lizzy was really interesting too. Before that episode no one really knows if she's full blown crazy or just a little off. Then Bam she's dead along with her sister.

I don't think every episode needs to move the plot forward either. Most of the time when they do that they rush the story a little too quickly. The foreshadowing and little hints they give throughout the boring episodes is almost as entertaining to me as the big thriller episodes.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:43 am to
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Actually, the incident with the girls not only developed their characters to the fullest extent they would go, but it also was the tipping point that prompted Carol to reveal her part in killing the sick prisoners at the prison (not to mention them finally realizing who was feeding walkers rodents and shite).



I'm in for developing characters, but they could literally not resign Carol and Tyrese for next season that absolutely nothing would be missing from the next season. Nothing.

That's why I disliked that episode. (Dislike is probably a strong word, but I wasn't a huge fan. Story was good, the episode in its own right was out of place.)

The only, and I mean only, interesting thing about the whole Carol/Tyrese storyline is that they're babysitting Judith and eventually they'll have to meet up with Carl and Rick. That's it. Hell, I'm really not even interested in the Rick/Carol thing once it does happen, but I may be in the minority on that one.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:45 am
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:46 am to
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I don't think every episode needs to move the plot forward either. Most of the time when they do that they rush the story a little too quickly. The foreshadowing and little hints they give throughout the boring episodes is almost as entertaining to me as the big thriller episodes.



I don't think I do either, I like to make progress though. I don't think we've made any progress since the Beth episode.

The Carol/Tyrese/Lizzy/Mika episode could have taken place at any time. It was a puzzle piece episode that was like its own little story. It was good, but it didn't fit. Again, maybe I'm just completely off base though.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:47 am to
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The one tonight they spent to much time on stupid flashbacks too. I dont care about how rick started planting crops who cares

The flashbacks were symbolizing the parallels between pre apocalyptic world and post apocalypse.

Rick was nuts pre-prison and Herschel calmed him down. Now he's mastering balancing his animalistic survival side with his human side.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:47 am to
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Carol's a pretty major character. Lizzy was really interesting too.


Carol is major.

I thought Lizzy highlighted the difference between the passive Woodburyians and those who'd actually had to face the reality of the apocalypse.

I do hope Sasha, Bob and the lesbian get eaten posthaste.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:48 am to
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I'm in for developing characters, but they could literally not resign Carol and Tyrese for next season that absolutely nothing would be missing from the next season. Nothing.

That's why I disliked that episode. (Dislike is probably a strong word, but I wasn't a huge fan. Story was good, the episode in its own right was out of place.)

The only, and I mean only, interesting thing about the whole Carol/Tyrese storyline is that they're babysitting Judith and eventually they'll have to meet up with Carl and Rick. That's it. Hell, I'm really not even interested in the Rick/Carol thing once it does happen, but I may be in the minority on that one.


Well, I guess I'm in the camp that prefers and appreciates ancillary storylines to give the show some variety. Guess this is more a matter of what you prefer in your TV shows

I get where you're coming from, but I just have a different perspective.
Posted by wstorie44
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 12:49 am to
Yeah rick to look likes he could lose it at any moment especially now. When that guy had carl i was like yep.ur fricked lol
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 12:51 am
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