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re: Is it advocating racism or remembering heritage?

Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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And you probably believe you are open minded, intelligent, etc...don't you?


Are you seriously too dense to realize you are stereotyping me as you type?

And yes, if you are proud of the slavery part of your heritage, you're probably a shitty person and a racist.

You can be proud to be Southern without the flag ever coming into the equation. THAT'S what I don't get.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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I never got the whole American Pride thing


I've always thought American pride was pretty dumb and ignorant of all the shameful stuff America has done throughout its history.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

white people suck


Well, mine does.

And she's good at it
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:49 pm to
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If you're gonna say the Civil War wasn't about slavery, you're the one regurgitating complete bullshite from apologists, revisionists, and obfuscaters



If you're gonna say the Civil War was 100% to do with slavery, you're the one regurgitating complete bullshite from the opposite of the groups you just mentioned.

See how fricking easy that was? To take one side or the other of this argument is fricking asinine. It's not as White/Black as everyone wants to believe. (No pun intended)

Most people that try to paint it adamantly one way or the other are people that go over the top in trying to make their point and end up looking like a jackass.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282521 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:50 pm to
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I understand where you're coming from. I never got the whole American Pride thing. Yeah it's a nice place to live, but people act it's the ONLY nice place to live, same thing with southerners.


Some people appreciate the values instilled in them and cling to the symbols of those values. Unfortunately those symbols represent something else to other people.

I appreciate the values I grew up with, but those days are long gone.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:50 pm to
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white people suck


Well, mine does.

And she's good at it







That's wassist
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

I've always thought American pride was pretty dumb and ignorant of all the shameful stuff America has done throughout its history.


Agreed but it is not a popular sentiment. You tend to get the "well leave then" response.

I would if I could.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282521 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:50 pm to
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I've always thought American pride was pretty dumb and ignorant of all the shameful stuff America has done throughout its history.


Glass half empty kind of guy.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61794 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
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If you're gonna say the Civil War was 100% to do with slavery, you're the one regurgitating complete bullshite from the opposite of the groups you just mentioned.

See how fricking easy that was? To take one side or the other of this argument is fricking asinine. It's not as White/Black as everyone wants to believe. (No pun intended)

Most people that try to paint it adamantly one way or the other are people that go over the top in trying to make their point and end up looking like a jackass.
Except that I'm actually right.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18120 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
Why would anyone want to fly a United States flag ? Thousands upon thousands of innocent people have died at the hands of our military... Both abroad and on our home soil.


Your argument is dumb.. freedom of speech gives an individual the right to fly the stars and bars.. I certainly wouldn't fly it or have a sticker on my vehicle... But if someone wants to the Constitution says they can.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
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That's wassist


Thread's already jumped the shark
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61794 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:52 pm to
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Why would anyone want to fly a United States flag ? Thousands upon thousands of innocent people have died at the hands of our military... Both abroad and on our home soil.


Your argument is dumb.. It's freedom of speech to fly the stars and bars.. I certainly wouldn't fly it or have a sticker on my vehicle... But if someone wants to the Constitution says they can.
The US was created for the sole purpose of killing foreigners?


Apples to Oranges
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:52 pm to
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If you want to display your southern pride, why not get a flag with a magnolia tree on it or some shite?

Why on earth would you want to fly the flag of a country that existed solely for the purpose of enslaving black people?


fricking this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282521 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:52 pm to
One man's symbol of liberty is anothers symbol of oppression.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38681 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:53 pm to
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Except that I'm actually right.


You're about as right on this as you are on the definition of a self defense case.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282521 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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country that existed solely for the purpose of enslaving black people?


fricking this.


Except little about it is true.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Why on earth would you want to fly the flag of a country that existed solely for the purpose of enslaving black people?


You keep saying this and I'm not sure if you're serious or you just want some responses.

I hope you don't believe it because if you do you're fricking ignorant.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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One man's symbol of liberty is anothers symbol of oppression.


Here are a few.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61794 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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You're about as right on this as you are on the definition of a self defense case.

Derp.

All I ever talked about in that thread was how it should be. I never made one claim about what the actual law was.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:55 pm to
What did you expect Tbird.

I personally don't fly the flag because I'm not ok with people thinking I'm a racist. That and I can understand why someone could be offended by what that flag is a symbol of. It's not that I'm not proud to be from the South, but I show it in other ways.
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