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Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:46 am to NATidefan
Back when they still prayed in school, my HS had an Indian kid who was Hindu. He was voted Class President and was valedictorian. Anyways, he was allowed to walk out during the prayers at assemblies and in the morning.
It really wasn't a big deal. He was well-liked. I know this isn't totally relevant to what we're arguing about, it's just that a lot of these issues are overblown.
It really wasn't a big deal. He was well-liked. I know this isn't totally relevant to what we're arguing about, it's just that a lot of these issues are overblown.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:46 am to Patton
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well... thats just the world we live in today
If he was jewish and going off about christians the out come wouldn't have been the same... If he was agnostic or atheist the out come would not have been the same... come on...
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:48 am to NATidefan
quote:In many parts of the country, this would be no big deal at all. It would never even make it to youtube. No one would care.
If he was jewish and going off about christians the out come wouldn't have been the same... If he was agnostic or atheist the out come would not have been the same...
I heard atheist/jewish teachers rail on Christians all the time up north.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:48 am to NATidefan
POLI BOARD!!1!1!!
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:49 am to genro
Is this shite still going on? 
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:50 am to genro
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Not linked to behavior
Sure they are. In some way, your behaviors are always a product of the environment that you were raised in. Obvious nature vs. nurture argument, but I think we can all agree that it's a combination. If I'm a child in a black, asian, gay, single parent... household, I will likely have a markedly different from someone who had a different upbringing, thus impacting my behavior. Religion is a behavior as well... I choose to go to church, or pray at sunrise and sundown, or whatever my choice. Everything that we are is reflected in our behaviors as you put it.
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Wouldn't this teacher be discriminated against because of his opinions?
This is about as circular of an argument as you can get. Hitler discriminated. Because we disagreed with his beliefs we are equally bigoted. I feel pretty confident you wouldn't agree with this statement so obviously there is a point at which you have to take a step back and assess what "discrimination" is. He can believe what he likes. It's when you start trying to impress that viewpoint to others that your views come under scrutiny. Again, I didn't read the thread nor watch this video and have no desire to, but I think most people should be able to take step back as an impartial observer and see what should or should not be acceptable behavior.
In football, we call it the "Eye Test."
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:51 am to CatFan81
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Is this shite still going on?
For once we agree.
I casty all you dummies
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:52 am to fibonaccisquared
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Godwin's law is an argument made by Mike Godwin in 1990 that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:52 am to genro
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Anyways, he was allowed to walk out during the prayers at assemblies and in the morning.
Why should a kid have to walk out of a room?
I'm agnostic and grew up in the bible belt.... and let me tell you it's not easy having your own beliefs when they are different from everyone else.
I'd have girls tell me... you're so sweet... I'm sorry you are going to hell.
Religion has no place in the class room...
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:54 am to bamabenny
It's bedtime. Night, y'all! 
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:54 am to NATidefan
And if the Christians got their pray.. why didn't he get his hindu prayer at assemblies and in the morning?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:54 am to genro
Haha... except in this case it is an on-topic point. Although I considered other options, it is the most polarizing for a general audience and provided an adequate lens to examine the topic at hand.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:55 am to NATidefan
quote:First of all, that doesn't really sound that bad. If that's the worst thing that was ever said to you in HS, then you had it pretty. Besides, you don't believe in hell, so what do you care?
let me tell you it's not easy having your own beliefs when they are different from everyone else.
I'd have girls tell me... you're so sweet... I'm sorry you are going to hell.
Religion has no place in the class room...
Secondly, it sounds like you were the one who brought religion into the classroom. How did they know you were agnostic?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:57 am to NATidefan
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I'd have girls tell me... you're so sweet... I'm sorry you are going to hell.
Those are some dumb bitches.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:57 am to semotruman
Night semo.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:00 am to fibonaccisquared
Ok since you wanna act like this a legit point.
And it is. In fact, Amnesty International does a lot of work for "prisoners of conscience," people who were punished simply for expressing an idea.
Hitler's views weren't what made him the ultimate nemesis. It was his actions. Did this teacher line up the homosexuals in his class, and send them to concentration camps? No.
quote:100% strawman. I didn't say we had to agree with the teacher's views or we were bigots. I said if you punish someone for their viewpoints, it is discriminatory.
Hitler discriminated. Because we disagreed with his beliefs we are equally bigoted.
And it is. In fact, Amnesty International does a lot of work for "prisoners of conscience," people who were punished simply for expressing an idea.
Hitler's views weren't what made him the ultimate nemesis. It was his actions. Did this teacher line up the homosexuals in his class, and send them to concentration camps? No.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:01 am to genro
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First of all, that doesn't really sound that bad. If that's the worst thing that was ever said to you in HS, then you had it pretty. Besides, you don't believe in hell, so what do you care?
Obviously you don't know what agnostic means...
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Secondly, it sounds like you were the one who brought religion into the classroom. How did they know you were agnostic?
Everyone in my small town of 1000 went to church... it wasn't that hard to figure out I didn't and when they asked my thoughts I was honest about them.
It's feels pretty weird being on a school trip and them having a sunday worship and you wondering whether to attend it or not... how people will judge you etc...
Religion doesn't belong in schools... There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for it too.
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:03 am to NATidefan
quote:I'm not sure if I know what it means or not. I mean I might know what it means. I guess it's possible, but I have doubts. I'm basically just gonna say I don't know if I know what it means, without committing one way or the other.
Obviously you don't know what agnostic means...
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:04 am to NATidefan
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If he was jewish and going off about christians the out come wouldn't have been the same... If he was agnostic or atheist the out come would not have been the same...
It happened in Alabama. Welcome to majority rule
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